Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Will I ever achieve my dream of being a DJ? Not in this lifetime.
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Viper
Banned
Hell yeah, hot girls that play music, I love music, I love playing music, I like the songs we play, I like marching, yes I do like band.
You played French Horn? That's a sissy instrument. lol. Well not really, but here in Kentucky, the only french horns I know, are all sissies. lol. They are gay, but I guess you wouldn't be gay, if you are a DJ.
I played baritone, and we were the manly section. I never became that high a chair, though I was the best. lol. I didn't have enough confidence at the time, to score a really high chair.
I was in band, and we only had like 40 people, then I moved. Now we have 20, and I still go on band competitions, and I know I can pull any chick in my band, of course we only have like 20 - 30 people, and I am not sure really of the amount, but we are really small.
Seriously, band is the reason I am the DJ that I am. Such confidence. Just stick it through, and start hanging out with your section more. Become really good friends with all of them.
familyguyfan
Master Don Juan
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Quit giving us all this BS about you not having time for any of the stuff we tell you to do. In your original post, you yourself admit that when you're not in school or at band, you sit on your ass at home all day. Why don't you use all that wasted time and actually get up and do some of the things we tell you.
How do you know those kids wouldn't be interested in doing anything if you don't ask them. It's worth a shot. You have nowhere to go but up.
Girl friends are fine, but here us when we say that GUY FRIENDS ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE! Doesn't matter who you are. It's true for all guys except gay ones.
And you can't keep doubting yourself about your personality. Every teen questions their place in life, but don't go telling yourself you're a boring person. If you think you're boring then other people will definitely think you're boring. Prove to them, and yourself that you aren't boring, and are fun.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I have nothing else to say here for now. Take my advice and do it.
Free choice is the power...you have shackles on yourself and you have the key..
Viper
Banned
Well, I do have guy friends, but while they cheer me on and say "What's up" to me, I can tell they don't think of me as one of the guys. Well, school's back again tommorow guys and I'm going to try some of this stuff out. My goal is going to be to atleast approach 20 chicks, no numbers because I don't really expect the convos to great, nor for them to really become interested in me, but I'm going to approach them. There are a couple of girls in band(Which is first period everyday) I have in mind already, this girl named jaquie, really hot blonde girl, this girl named Roxanne, who I've already talked about and this short girl named Jill, she's a senior, average looks and body. I really hate doing this, but yes, I'm going to do it, I know the conversations will suck and I'll look like a real geek, but I'm going to take it like a man. I expect most of them to go like this:
As you can see, I'm very bad at building rapport, building connections with people.
Also, can you guys analyze why this girl seemed freaked out when I approached her? This approach from a good year ago, but I'm still wondering:
I might get rejected alot tommorow, I might look like a dumbass tommorow infront of an HB 9, but I don't care, because if anything, it will be a good learning experience.
Watch out ladies, because tommorow, the Mike man aint takin' **** from nobody, not even HB9's.
I think the girl in that convo felt kind awkward cus "you gotta name?" is not something you hear everyday (at least I don't). It sounds kinda...iono...corny. Just ask her what her name is and ask her how she's doin and stuff.
Also, I don't hear "I don't believe we've met yet" alot. Maybe it's different over there in Ohio, but you might wanna consider reading up on "teenage language". Saying things so proper makes you seem like an old man
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
Viper
Banned
Yeah, I'll come back to tommorow and tell you how I approached a girl, got her name, then said "Well, see ya later", because I couldn't think of anything else to talk about after I got her name. Oh yeah and this school is also full of chicks who will act nice to you when you approach them and then talk **** about how "Hah, did that loser really think he could get me?" with their friends, but I won't let that bring me down.
Viper
Banned
Definitely trying this out.
Also, if I get a good convo started and a girl straight bores me with her one word answers, I'm just flat out saying "I'm sorry girl, but I'm not going to lie to you, but you are one of the most boring girls I've ever met.".
Viper
Banned
Hah, now there's a proper way to introduce yourself? I just want to introduce myself, how I say it shouldn't matter.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16186
This is actually the first one that I read, that I thought, "Mike could really use that information."
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16903
Be a Man!!! Obviously you need to read this one. It's a life saver.
And read everything in the conversation section. I am glad that I picked up my copy of the family bible, because now that I am a DJ, I am applying some tactics, just for the hell of it.
Remember, I used to be in the same exact position as you.
I mean I had friends that were like, "Hey, what's up?", but then I would go back to being left out, and kind of a tag along, that wasn't really contributing.
Contribute to your possy. Bring something special to the group. I brought my knowledge of Final Fantasy, Computers, and Martial Arts, to the group. I was respected, and valued as a member.
Especially focus on that first article. It is just what you need.
I'll say this though: saying "I'm sorry girl, but I'm not going to lie to you, but you are one of the most boring girls I've ever met" is not a good idea if you have a "loser" reputation at school. They'll just think you're being mean
Viper
Banned
I know a couple of soccer players that have to sometime miss games because of practice, football players that are in band and football that have to come out during half time show and play in their uniform, don't know about the rest of them.Originally posted by arutha
Umm... The others manage sports and stuff as well as the band so they can't do band on weekend with you, but you somehow can't fit extra stuff in?
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.