Will a woman date a man that makes less than she does?

[SgtSplacker]

Just curious what the consensus is. I think the answer is no...

 

[Mike32ct]

Generally the answer is no, but there are exceptions.

A very good looking guy can date a s u g a r momma sometimes.

Does it last in the long term? Usually not.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Game trumps all. Yes.

 

[PDubb75]

Absolutely, yes.

I make a decent amount of money, no issues or anything, and a few of my recent girls made more than me. I have other friends who's g/fs or wives make more than them.

 

[blueeyedgent]

Yup, my current GF a great example. I actually make more but not after child and spousal support.

 

[Trump]

Game trumps all. Yes.

Agreed. Game is #1, everything else is secondary and can be worked on.

Friend makes $40,000 less than his wife, they have married been 8 years and counting.

 

[bigneil]

Sure, but she'll never respect him. Because she won't make enough for them to be comforable and she'll dream ofa better life. Is she going to work harder for more money? Or look for a better man.

Game is absolutely not #1.

You don't even get to play to begin with if you don't pass 100 tests she'll put you through.

You can't smooth talk your way out of the fact you're unemployed. She will figure it out. You can't game your way out of the fact you were a virgin until age 27. She'll figure it out. You can only game your way into getting an audition, and maybe prolonging a breakup.

Having a career that you love is #1. Being a leader among men, or better yet a leader among leaders. That gives you the true confidence to approach a woman the way a traffic cop approaches someone they pull over.

Unless a guy is in the 99% of looks (meaning the hottest 1%) he won't be a sugar baby but for a 65 year old woman. One of the worst things a man can do is date a woman who makes more than him. His salary is his ceiling.

 

[SgtSplacker]

All things being equal it's definitely a handicap. But I do agree that if you are given the opportunity to game her a bit it becomes irrelevant.

 

[Who Dares Win]

It's not only about money but also about status.

A woman doctor hardly would date a man employee at the post office.

That same woman doctor would date an extreme sport champion sponsored from red bull who appear from time to time on local tv.
Lets say she gets 100.000 euros per year while he gets 60.000, Im sure she still would and would also brag about it.

Money probably lose weight the highter the social class is, a employeed woman wouldnt date a wedding singer who gets as much as her while a woman ceo would date a police captain who gets much less than her.

A paratrooper from a special force doesnt get enough money to be considered rich but his alpha status is so high that he could easily get women or highter economical class.

 

[AAAgent]

Yes and game trumps all.

I know so many pharmacist that are dating people that make much less than them. I think they regret being towards the top of the pay chain as now a lot of guys are intimidated of them. My cousin is one of those. She is a 32 attractive single female. Had 1 late serious relationship from 24-28. Never been the same since that breakup and broke up at a late point in her life.

A lot of rich females are insecure.

@bigneil: money doesn't buy respect, actions do. My friend strings along 3-4 girls at a time before when he was a casino gambler, waiter, etc. He was dating pharmacists, nurses, managers, etc. It's all about maintaining the frame. He doesn't bring any of his problems into any of his relationships, no matter how much debt he has or can't make rent. He will just tell his girls, they can't come over but he can go over theirs, if not then oh well.

Not having money or looks just makes it harder to get noticed as a man, but persistence always pays off if your smart.

 

[PlayerUntilDeath]

The question asked "date." Yes, a woman will date/f*ck a man who makes less than her. Will a woman stay in a LTR or marry a man who makes less than her? Usually, it's not likely because after HS/College, her (most women) agenda becomes about "getting married/house/car/kids/etc" and this is about HER status so she wants to be able to look up to her man (and use his higher status as in he makes more money than her so SHE feels that she is worth more (increased self-esteem as in she must really be somebody special) and especially so SHE looks good to HER family and friends, so a man making more than she does is not so much about him (who she might date/f*ck discreetly if they just met and began dating) as it is all about HER and HER agenda and her public IMAGE. Unless she has a high salary job (thus because of her career she can buy her own things) and she is just looking for a beta guy to marry for HER agenda of having the public image of a marriage to her family/friends (because SHE already has the power/control/status/money) and she is in charge.

I would say that unless a man is married then a woman should NEVER know exactly how much money a man makes anyway. A man should never tell a woman he is just "dating" or even in a LTR with how much money he makes. Also, unless they happen to work in the same place, a DJ should not even tell women he is "dating" specifically where he works, and only a LTR would maybe ever find out where he works. Some DJ's may play it as if they have a ton of money when in fact they don't, but that can be more difficult to pull off for more than a few days. Many women seem to think once he inserts his d*ck, she is automatically upgraded by being inserted into his lifestyle/money. So, I'm not even in favor of a man buying an expensive vehicle/house, although those things if he has them should be clean but not expensive IMHO unless the guy is a wealthy G, but for a regular smooth DJ it can be better to not give any impression of having much money and not ever in detail even talk about how much money he has or doesn't have, then just "date/f*ck" for as long as the "dating without her ever finding out exactly how much money he makes" lasts (even if that is only one date or a few dates - ha).

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Some of you guys don't get it.

#1 is physical attraction. Always has been and always will be.

A girl who is strongly attracted to you physically will use the most moronic logic that you could EVER dream up to justify being with you.

Game can never do that for you. EVER.

 

[nismo-4]

Game trumps all. Yes.

Wishful thinking. If game did trump all, every man on this forum who tried the tips here would have no problems with women. Game can only get you so far. Personality can too. I dated a older woman who makes 6 figures. She's in a brand new hummer, and I'm in a Pontiac. That experience I had was proof that game is not a be all end all. If you're either physically or financially attractive, you're good. She'd still be talking to me if I looked like I bench press 400 pounds and pulled up in a Mercedes.

Has your game ever made you any more physically attractive to a woman as opposed to your muscles? I think not. Game can't cover up flab, scars, and fat. Sorry.

Has your game ever made you any more financially attractive in a woman's eyes? I think not. It can't beat an Armani Suit or a Rolex or a Maserati.

Don't you guys understand that if a woman wants you, she'll give little to no sh*t tests? But if she doesn't, she'll make you jump through hoops and mazes full of traps! Even then, she might not want you.

Women have crazy ways of finding out how much money you make. These days, if you're looking to get a woman for a ONS, you better lie. I've had to tell women that I'm a doctor.

To answer the question, she'll date such a man, but she'll hold most of the cards unless you're very handsome.

Also, persistance, goals, dreams, and ambitions help in the FUTURE, but girls want what you have in the PRESENT (THE NOW!)

Case closed.

 

[bigneil]

That same woman doctor would date an extreme sport champion sponsored (who earned less than her)

True. You don't need to be rich if you are extremely handsome OR extremely famous.

 

[Trump]

Wishful thinking. If game did trump all, every man on this forum who tried the tips here would have no problems with women. Game can only get you so far. Personality can too. I dated a older woman who makes 6 figures. She's in a brand new hummer, and I'm in a Pontiac. That experience I had was proof that game is not a be all end all. If you're either physically or financially attractive, you're good. She'd still be talking to me if I looked like I bench press 400 pounds and pulled up in a Mercedes.

Has your game ever made you any more physically attractive to a woman as opposed to your muscles? I think not. Game can't cover up flab, scars, and fat. Sorry.

Has your game ever made you any more financially attractive in a woman's eyes? I think not. It can't beat an Armani Suit or a Rolex or a Maserati.

Yes it can. I have 2 friends who have never worked out in their lives. One is 200lbs the other is 5'5 and 205lbs. Neither has much money, are cheap, and buy very cheap clothes but dress nicely, and both are married to good looking women who are both pregnant now.

To answer the question, she'll date such a man, but she'll hold most of the cards unless you're very handsome.

Also, persistance, goals, dreams, and ambitions help in the FUTURE, but girls want what you have in the PRESENT (THE NOW!)

Case closed.

Sorry nismo, disagree with above too. You can be the richest guy but if you are boring, the girl won't care about you. I've been out with FHM models who knew I had some money, but I had no game at the time, so they said no to a second date.

I think people here who say game doesn't matter, but looks and money do, are trying to rationalize things to themselves. Game is the hardest thing to work on, it involves time, going out in public, women have to like you, you have to be accepted by society, people have to care about you. These things are very very hard to achieve, harder than money or a Mercedes, especially at an older age.

Granted you can't be $8.25/hr waiter expecting to date the CEO of Coke. But if you make a decent living, take no crap from anyone, dress well, are liked by others and have some social value, you will get a lot more women than a guy with 2 Mercedes, 2 houses, 4 bank accounts and no friends.

 

[bigneil]

Yes and game trumps all.

@bigneil: money doesn't buy respect, actions do. My friend strings along 3-4 girls at a time before when he was a casino gambler, waiter, etc. He was dating pharmacists, nurses, managers, etc. It's all about maintaining the frame. He doesn't bring any of his problems into any of his relationships, no matter how much debt he has or can't make rent. He will just tell his girls, they can't come over but he can go over theirs, if not then oh well.

Not having money or looks just makes it harder to get noticed as a man, but persistence always pays off if your smart.

Gee, I wish I was your unemployed friend who buys respect with the actions of an unemployed man with no career path.

The more you earn, the more attractive you are, and it's a lot harder to earn more than it is to be pretty or "have game". So stop looking for short cuts. If you're unemployed and unattractive, you need to get improved, not get game.

Also, women aren't the ultimate fulfillment, they are the prize in the game of life. To win you must fulfill your maximum potential, which means being a man on a mission and working hard for 20+ years, and being fortunate and to some degree lucky.

 

[TonyBaloney]

Gee, I wish I was your unemployed friend who buys respect with the actions of an unemployed man with no career path.

The more you earn, the more attractive you are, and it's a lot harder to earn more than it is to be pretty or "have game". So stop looking for short cuts. If you're unemployed and unattractive, you need to get improved, not get game.

Also, women aren't the ultimate fulfillment, they are the prize in the game of life. To win you must fulfill your maximum potential, which means being a man on a mission and working hard for 20+ years, and being fortunate and to some degree lucky.

Im really sorry Neil, but Ive read with amazement some of your trifles with `pay as you go` women, and also some of your words of `wisdom` on the finer points of womanising and realize that you dont know what your talking about!

There are so many men out there who are on low incomes, are criminals, plain dumb, or are just good in bed with nothing else to recommend them...... this last point I think you'll find is far more important to a woman than money..... atke it from me. Ive never had money, but ive ALWAYS had women......

 

[OldbutSTRONG]

There are so many men out there who are on low incomes, are criminals, plain dumb, or are just good in bed with nothing else to recommend them...... this last point I think you'll find is far more important to a woman than money..... atke it from me. Ive never had money, but ive ALWAYS had women......

I think Neil is sort of implying to be better than that. Don't be the guy who spends all his time sleeping with women while neglecting a career or earning money. Be the guy who has both a CAREER and WOMEN, which is much better than living paycheck to paycheck.

I really don't understand the mentality of some of the posters. Yes men live for women and sex. But don't forget as men we have to get good jobs to enjoy other parts of life. What about travel? Cars? Electronic items? Eating out? Retirement plans?

Should every male be content to either be a renter for the rest of his life, live at home in his parent's house, or wait for his parents to die for an inheritance? Go ahead and game women, but don't forget to find a good paying job for yourself.

 

[OldbutSTRONG]

[Yes it can. I have 2 friends who have never worked out in their lives. One is 200lbs the other is 5'5 and 205lbs. Neither has much money, are cheap, and buy very cheap clothes but dress nicely, and both are married to good looking women who are both pregnant now.]

Trump, all that means to me is there will always be attractive women who have low self-esteem who don't know better. The tricky part is for guys to find them.

 

[floydb25]

She will date him, but not for the long-term. And by that I mean for years and years and years. Most girls **** the good looking guys, and marry the financially stable ones. I was always the former, and got left for the latter. Lolz. Good looking bad boys finish last all the same. We just get sex. And a bunch of lunatics with issues. Good thing I'm killing the badness, and downplaying the looks. Pimpin' those pajamas like a champ, son.

And by most girls, I mean most good looking girls. They always go for the supervisors, and fool around with the grunts. At least in my experience. Every hot girl I've known has done this - while acting as though they were good people with standards and souls. Peesh pash... They were as shallow as they come, and didn't care about **** that mattered. It was either money or looks. But they were fake and retarded, so who cares.