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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Why Women Have Sex
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I stopped reading when I saw that the article and the book mentioned in the article are both written by women.
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The co-author's name is David.
David is probably not a woman. Just by reading the article, and how dismayed the journalist is, the book seems to unravel a lot of truths.
David is a cuck or gay.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
mrgoodstuff
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I didn't see a list of 237...
jnMissouri
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Basically the article says there are reasons such as revenge against an ex, make a man jealous, status with social circle of friends, getting a man, keeping a man, getting promotions, drugs, etc. as well as pleasure due to physical attraction. Supposedly there was a study. It is obvious that women have sex for MANY reasons, far more so than men. We are almost singular in our sexual pursuit as far as reasons.
I didn't find the article life changing but it was a good reminder that women have sex for many reasons.
I didn't find the article life changing but it was a good reminder that women have sex for many reasons.
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one is butch, and militant looking......took one look at her picture and stopped reading.....
mrgoodstuff
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So most reasons are not "pleasure" according to this Butch viewpoint.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
glass half full
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Depending on her attitude, workplace environment and social circle, this could last nearly two decades past her twenties.
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It's almost as if their base nature is sluts in competition to see who can get the most best ****...
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Listen to Mr. Locario.
mrgoodstuff
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Thus you must make them compete.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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That's actually pretty based for an article from the guardian. There's still the propaganda crap like '...Which means that 12% of Russian women and 22% of Japanese women are totally wasting their time."
But at least they're being real.
But at least they're being real.
mrgoodstuff
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You know this type?
I hate to set off the alphas in the joint...gawd knows they re easily triggered. Most of the 'reasons' come down to some random feeling. But a bit of male leadership changes all that.
Like I always say foot traffic. If you're short broke bald and fat go up to enough chicks this weekend you ll still get it wet their random nature i.e. 'reasons' always provides. I f u want her to stick around then you have to do the work.....but be careful what you wish for
Like I always say foot traffic. If you're short broke bald and fat go up to enough chicks this weekend you ll still get it wet their random nature i.e. 'reasons' always provides. I f u want her to stick around then you have to do the work.....but be careful what you wish for
Seductions_Mad_Scientist
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lol at this article.
I kinda agree. Women accept (and for that matter reject) sex for the dumbest reasons.
Like I've said before:
I've gotten laid before being friends with some dudes in a band.
And, I've been rejected for doing literally everything right and then just being told when she was back at my place that I try to hard. (in general, she's not wrong lol)
I've gotten laid cuz apperantly I look like her boyfriend who she was trying to make mad.
I've gotten rejected for not having the same religion.
It's pointless, it's irrational and you know what? That's what makes it fun.
Cheers
I kinda agree. Women accept (and for that matter reject) sex for the dumbest reasons.
Like I've said before:
I've gotten laid before being friends with some dudes in a band.
And, I've been rejected for doing literally everything right and then just being told when she was back at my place that I try to hard. (in general, she's not wrong lol)
I've gotten laid cuz apperantly I look like her boyfriend who she was trying to make mad.
I've gotten rejected for not having the same religion.
It's pointless, it's irrational and you know what? That's what makes it fun.
Cheers
DEEZEDBRAH
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Women have sex for validation. Hence why they **** up.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.