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Me and my buddy got in to a discussion of going back and forth. The topic was that any woman that makes you wait for sex, the sex is not worth the way. Specially after a couple of dates. I believe that’s there’s a reason for that, he thinks otherwise...
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Its so easy to understand its because you want a women with an interest level high enough that she cant keep herself from wanting to fack you and also wont take the chance to make you wait because deep down she knows that if she does you might go elsewhere.

Sadly i dont think that this is the case for all men, so i think lower smv men need to play a different game.

The logic behind the recommendation to not wait more than 3 date before getting the F is mostly for men to not waste their time and attention on low interest women that more than likely wont **** them or will **** them without the real passion and desire to do it.

Best sex is with women with a intense desire to **** you

Imo it is not an absolute rules but a very good guide line for less experienced men that can easily get played because they dont know any better.
 

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Its so easy to understand its because you want a women with an interest level high enough that she cant keep herself from wanting to fack you and also wont take the chance to make you wait because deep down she knows that if she does you might go elsewhere.

Sadly i dont think that this is the case for all men, so i think lower smv men need to play a different game.

The logic behind the recommendation to not wait more than 3 date before getting the F is mostly for men to not waste their time and attention on low interest women that more than likely wont **** them or will **** them without the real passion and desire to do it.

Best sex is with women with a intense desire to **** you

Imo it is not an absolute rules but a very good guide line for less experienced men that can easily get played because they dont know any better.
Yeah I just realize that this might happen to lower SMV males, but not to higher smv males
 

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Yeah I just realize that this might happen to lower SMV males, but not to higher smv males
Yep
And SMV is very subjective, so better be with women that see us as high smv.
 

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Please explain more
There's not much to explain really. Couple of dates maybe but the 2nd should be gauged well. With a good eye for her interest levels.
At the point of waiting she's framing a man with her puzzy.
How will he ever lead her when he has bowed to the power of puzzy so early??
Most girls will sleep with a guy at date 2-3. And chasing you 80/20 by the 4th to 5th week.
If shes not something is up.
 

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There's not much to explain really. Couple of dates maybe but the 2nd should be gauged well. With a good eye for her interest levels.
At the point of waiting she's framing a man with her puzzy.
How will he ever lead her when he has bowed to the power of puzzy so early??
Most girls will sleep with a guy at date 2-3. And chasing you 80/20 by the 4th to 5th week.
If shes not something is up.
I usually tried to go mode one
 

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Its so easy to understand its because you want a women with an interest level high enough that she cant keep herself from wanting to fack you and also wont take the chance to make you wait because deep down she knows that if she does you might go elsewhere.

Sadly i dont think that this is the case for all men, so i think lower smv men need to play a different game.

The logic behind the recommendation to not wait more than 3 date before getting the F is mostly for men to not waste their time and attention on low interest women that more than likely wont **** them or will **** them without the real passion and desire to do it.

Best sex is with women with a intense desire to **** you

Imo it is not an absolute rules but a very good guide line for less experienced men that can easily get played because they dont know any better.
Shouldn't a man stay within this ruleset to keep himself out of trouble?
 

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Me and my buddy got in to a discussion of going back and forth. The topic was that any woman that makes you wait for sex, the sex is not worth the way. Specially after a couple of dates. I believe that’s there’s a reason for that, he thinks otherwise...
Would like to hear you answers from personal experiences
They make you wait for control. Sex must take place within 3 - 4 dates. No food until fvcked. However, you can get some drinks or some apps on the first or second date. Keep it cheap. Groupon is your friend.
 

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Shouldn't a man stay within this ruleset to keep himself out of trouble?
Imo wanting to keep yourself out of trouble, means you care too much , are thirsty or are not confident enough. Its like being afraid to lose money when playing poker, we all.know winners at poker are ruthless.
So i think its wrong mindset.

For inexperience ppl i think following 3 dates rules is best. Because its harder to judge where they stand interest level wise.
Also some guys are so inexperience they wont even escalate to try and get the lay.
 

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Imo wanting to keep yourself out of trouble, means you care too much , are thirsty or are not confident enough. Its like being afraid to lose money when playing poker, we all.know winners at poker are ruthless.
So i think its wrong mindset.

For inexperience ppl i think following 3 dates rules is best. Because its harder to judge where they stand interest level wise.
Also some guys are so inexperience they wont even escalate to try and get the lay.
I was saying only allowing babes to highly desire you will keep you from devaluation yourself.
 

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Yeah I just realize that this might happen to lower SMV males, but not to higher smv males
If you have not yet. Read The Rational Male and The 48 laws of power. And don't even bother sharing your newly found wisdom with others you know. It doesn't work that way.
 

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If you have not yet. Read The Rational Male and The 48 laws of power. And don't even bother sharing your newly found wisdom with others you know. It doesn't work that way.
I’ve read the rational male twice this year going for a 3rd time, yeah I tried not to talk about the red pill knowledge. Not everyone is going to agreed with it. It’s like drinking from a fire hose
 

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I've only had 3 experiences like that, and none of them were worth it. The women who played that game didn't give me head either when we did eventually have sex. So it was like ok I got one thing, but now I'm being denied another
 

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I've only had 3 experiences like that, and none of them were worth it. The women who played that game didn't give me head either when we did eventually have sex. So it was like ok I got one thing, but now I'm being denied another
Did this happened on the first date or a second ?
 

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I've only had 3 experiences like that, and none of them were worth it. The women who played that game didn't give me head either when we did eventually have sex. So it was like ok I got one thing, but now I'm being denied another
Some of the women are doing This. Stringing one guy along for head. The other guy gets head and gets strung along for puzzy.
 

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Give her three dates, morals are getting more and more rare, but some chicks actually try to feel out who they sleep with.
Anything more, I’d next.
 

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It's really a frame battle to be honest.

As a man it's important for you to be the absolute dominant frame.
When a woman doesn't make you wait for sex, she enters your frame.
Having sex with her early allows you to control the frame as you become the dominant one and she becomes the submissive.

The longer she makes you wait for sex, the more control she has over you.
This is how you enter her frame without even realizing it.
Now she becomes the dominant one and you become the submissive.
 
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