"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Why some of you aren't improving...

Touchout

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Remember when you found this site, it was like finding the golden key to all of life's problems. You immediately dropped everything you were doing and started reading and processing as much information as you possibly could. As you were reading you said to yourself, "I can't wait to use this on (oneitis) tomorrow, now I can finally get her!" and you get excited to use some of the techniques you've found.

But tomorrow comes, you see the girl, and you become scared...you freeze up, just like you did before you found this site. So you come home, read some more, say to yourself your going to approach her tomorrow. Tomorrow comes, still no approach.

Now your thinking to yourself that you aren't an AFC anymore, so you start posting some advice on this site, just regurgitating whatever you've read in your own words. And sure, people will praise you for it, they may even believe your a true DJ, but you are still yet to make a single approach.

Now you've reached "Master Don Juan", the 500 post count, and have read every four and five star thread out there, have read through the DJ Bible, and have created some epic posts of your own, yet you still haven't made a SINGLE approach.



What's the point of this? (besides a little auto-biography) YOUR STILL THE SAME AFC WHO CAME STUMBLING ACROSS THIS SITE. Sure, you know everything there is to know, but what good does it do if you don't have any EXPERIENCE to back it up.

EXPERIENCE is all that matters in this game, and once you go out and start getting some it's easy to see who are real DJ's and who are just KBJ's.

The dreaded KBJ, the guy who always tells you it's IMPOSSIBLE to do this and impossible to do that, but has he ever experienced any of these things? Go out there, experience things for yourself. People say it's impossible to get out of the friend zone, prove them wrong!

One of the best bits of advice you can take off this board is confidence is EVERYTHING. Grow a set, get out there and start improving.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ElStud

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Well, my problem really isn't approaching the girl anymore, it's actually having a conversation with the girl and making her interested. If the girl doesn't respond, that just means she's not interested.
 

Touchout

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ElStud said:
Well, my problem really isn't approaching the girl anymore, it's actually having a conversation with the girl and making her interested. If the girl doesn't respond, that just means she's not interested.

That is all part of the approach my friend. You have to grind through it, push through the awkwardness...your going to have to do A LOT of talking to get her to open up to you. I forget who it is, but someone on this site always preaches the 90you-10her percentage when you first meet someone.
 

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Touchout said:
That is all part of the approach my friend. You have to grind through it, push through the awkwardness...your going to have to do A LOT of talking to get her to open up to you. I forget who it is, but someone on this site always preaches the 90you-10her percentage when you first meet someone.
I know, I was just implying that I don't freeze up anymore when I want to approach girls, I just go up to them. The actual approach is what I need to work on.
 

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i got better from this site... just in general. sometimes im still nervous when approaching and stuff but i think thats normal. the nervousness is just a killer and for some people it just wont go away.

oneitis=bad
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No shet, some ppl have been here for years and still ask things like how to approach a girl, the funny part, same person dares to give advice when he cant take care of his own problems. Dont tell another guy to workout when you youself are out of shape..
 
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