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Is your CAPS key broken? We created the language, can you Americans please at least try and respect it. ;)

"holy shiet i can feel your anger, bitterness and even hate towards these young hot women."

Yeah, I can also shoot force lightning from my fingertips. :rolleyes:


Resentful of their unearned ego?

Oh and believe me, many of them are not hot and have no business wearing clothes like that. Nice if you enjoy
the aesthetics of a badly stuffed sausage with a camel toe as a centrepiece I suppose, but it's a no thanks from me.
Please ladies, have some class.... I know there's a vagina between your legs, everybody does so there's really no need
to pull a foot of lycra up it so it can be easily seen from outer space.

"i bet these hot young women can sense your negative vibe as well and are probably repelled by it."

Nope, I'm approached weekly in by attractive girls in their 20's - early 30's. I have that 'hot older guy' vibe going on;),


Some labelled the sexually attractive "older guy "vibe as "creepy".

when approached I'm friendly and chatty to them but once again for the people in the sh1tty seats... I'M NOT
INTERESTED beyond a quick, polite conversation. I have bigger fish to fry, starting a new business, relocating
post divorce and renovating my new home and getting into even better shape which is related to the business
I want to start, I'd also like to buy and train a Doberman so that's a year of my time I need to focus on that task alone
but worth the time and effort way more than chasing women. Dogs know how to have fun and be loyal.
Wait until I'm walking around with a puppy, I'll be able to turn women down every single day then. :D
Loyalty in people, it's easier to become rich. If you want loyalty get a dog.

True story - I turned down a direct offer to have my D sucked in a pub car park about 4 months ago by a lovely looking
blonde girl who was a beautician. It's funny (politely) turning them down, they're not used to that and don't know how
to react apart from being outraged that the looks they have always relied on don't appear to be working anymore. It also
reveals their true nature saving me a lot of time and effort in the long run.
I suspect once you stop analyzing those types of offers and accept them, that they will appear from everywhere...

I just can't be bothered with ANY of them right now, finding a good one amongst the hordes of Facebook/snapchat/insta
addicted phone zombies out there is a huge task which I really have no time for or interest in slowing my own progress to
get. It's like going down a bin looking for the best piece of rubbish in it.
Not going to find a "good" on there. If you have fun, you might find one who wants to have fun with oyu.

"you might want to become more proactive or i suspect you might go another year without any sex at all."

Oh noes!!! That would be so terrible having to go another year without having to spare some of my valuable time
for a go on a wet hole. I guess you're one of those "any hole is a goal" types. That's like buying a car purely because
you like it's colour. But hey, I'm not judging you personally, whatever works for you buddy. My priorities are clearly
different from yours.[/.quote]

"Wet hole" isn't always combined with a negative side effect.

Example - I'm trolling Tinder thots with a deliberately provocative introduction paragraph purely to wind them up a bit.
Watching any one of the legions of land-whales or blown out baby mamas get upset because someone online said
some things they didn't like
is way more entertainment than I'd ever get if I dated them. Such a thing quickly reveals
the inherently narcissistic traits that the bulk of women these days seem to exhibit, but especially those on OLD sites,
usually for no good reason. Some of them are HIDEOUS, but 10/10 to them for their confidence though, however
misplaced it is. OLD is good for a laugh and not much else at my age.

If you can show me a humble, modern woman then you're probably somewhere in the far east.
:)

If not, I have a bridge for sale that you might be interested in.
Wow...
 

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I have approached girls with earbuds many times, i have approached girls on the phone, i have approached girls with other guys, ive had girls who met me less then 10 min before during the day offer to drive me home. I once met this girl on the street who was on the way home to her live in boyfriend abandon that plan and spend the next nearly 2 hours with me. i met this super hot blonde on the train at like 1 pm in the day and she invited me to spend the rest of the day with her within 2 min of meeting me.
for example, the nonsense that you need to move girls between multiple venues before they will agree to go home with you is completely false. maybe an average looking guy needs to do that but ive never done that even once in my life.
If you are that awesome at pickup, you should probably be posting guides for all of us to do it.

The earbud thing is a legitimate thing. Multiple men in this thread have mentioned it. Earbuds are so prevalent in gyms now that a guy who wants to play in the gym sandbox has to approach women wearing earbuds. It’s more difficult to get the IOIs needed to do an effective approach with earbud wearers.

I do not drink alcohol or do drugs at all so i would not give girls any alcohol or drugs.
Alcohol is often the fuel for casual sex. It’s a bit far fetched to imagine casual sex scenarios with neither alcohol nor drugs. The classic home dinner date 2nd or 3rd move usually involves a bottle of wine.

i bet these hot young women can sense your negative vibe as well and are probably repelled by it.
Nope, I'm approached weekly in by attractive girls in their 20's - early 30's. I have that 'hot older guy' vibe going on,
when approached I'm friendly and chatty to them but once again for the people in the sh1tty seats... I'M NOT
INTERESTED beyond a quick, polite conversation. I have bigger fish to fry, starting a new business, relocating
post divorce and renovating my new home and getting into even better shape which is related to the business
I want to start, I'd also like to buy and train a Doberman so that's a year of my time I need to focus on that task alone
but worth the time and effort way more than chasing women. Dogs know how to have fun and be loyal.
Wait until I'm walking around with a puppy, I'll be able to turn women down every single day then.

True story - I turned down a direct offer to have my D sucked in a pub car park about 4 months ago by a lovely looking
blonde girl who was a beautician. It's funny (politely) turning them down, they're not used to that and don't know how
to react apart from being outraged that the looks they have always relied on don't appear to be working anymore. It also
reveals their true nature saving me a lot of time and effort in the long run.
I would have expected that @lost_blackbird was some guy who was just ignored by younger women given his age. Very nice work there @lost_blackbird. A lot of 50+ men are essentially invisible to 20s/30s women. It’s an accomplishment to be pursued by 20s/30s women at age 50+.

A lot of people also need some time to recover post-divorce.

im going to test gym game because i expect i will be able to approach mostly 9s and 10s only.
Your expectations are probably too high. I would say the cute or hot category which is 6+ or 7+ by your own subjective standards.

In the times over the last 8 years when I was doing approaches at gyms/fitness classes, I was actually surprised at how few men were using those venues for approaches. I wasn’t doing approaches there when I was in satisfying relationships. When I was needed to find someone, I was always playing in the gym/fitness class sandbox.
 

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Resentful of their unearned ego?

Ooh, I like that. But not really. Ego isn't that important to me. I'm not remotely competitive and if I were to be 10000%
honest despite the dominant logical side of my head telling me I'm well ahead of the curve for a typical late 40's guy,
I still can't imagine why anyone would put up with me and my ways. That attitude pervaded throughout my marriage and
was instrumental in it's ultimate demise. Problem is, you cant fix aspergers and I'm not hugely sexual and never really was
thirsty for sex ever in my life. Was quite happily celibate from age 21 to 27, had a little dilly dally with a handful of girls and
then met my wife ----> present day. .

Some labelled the sexually attractive "older guy "vibe as "creepy".

And for just as many others, it's a really enticing prospect. The assumption being they will be financially viable and
can treat them to nicer places and things than some broke young guy just starting out, add to that own house, car
and the assumption of sexual competency and it's just what many young girls are looking for, for a while in their lives.
Not on my dime or time though.

Loyalty in people, it's easier to become rich. If you want loyalty get a dog.

I literally just said that I'm more focused on doing exactly that than chasing females. Expanding on that, it's a huge part of my new life

since the woman I married decided she was keeping the Dobermann cross Weimeraner I've already trained for herself. Losing that dog
was more upsetting than things not working out with the wife. My goal is to leave construction related employ behind and work with
animals ongoing. I enrolled on four Canine related diploma courses only yesterday to start towards getting the paperwork I need for that.
The only b1tches I'm really interested in have four legs and can't speak. My new Dobermann will be called Patience, and the one the wife
stole from me is named 'Grace', a name which I now have tattooed on my inner left wrist.


I suspect once you stop analyzing those types of offers and accept them, that they will appear from everywhere...

And that's a good thing? Sounds bloody dreadful. I didn't analyse anything, I was just honestly uninterested in what
she was offering so politely said 'I'd rather have another beer.' or words to that effect. Which was somewhat more truthful.


Not going to find a "good" on there. If you have fun, you might find one who wants to have fun with oyu.

Fun is over-rated, although I am kinda enjoying trolling tinder as per the other thread.

I'm an aspie, fun isn't something we particularly seek, nor are emotional connections with others because they're confusing.
Truth told I rarely smile or laugh unless I'm being amused by an animal such as a dog. People are way too complicated. I'm
amazed my last relationship (and likely final) lasted as long as it did. I had a very late diagnosis though so I really had no idea
why I see the world the way I do.
Looking at Tinder and the like makes me truly sad at the state of things with modern women,
they just aren't an attractive prospect to me in any regard. I'm back to the "wet hole shrouded in 100% lunatic' mindset where
females are concerned. I'd sooner take my chances with that Doberman I mentioned for companionship and lovely quiet,
expectation free company. I'll be almost guaranteed to like her friends too, can't say the same for the pack of slags and woke
soyboys my wife seemed to prefer spending her time with. I avoided her friends like the plague for the duration of our relationship.
 

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If we don't have "fun" we will be trapped waiting for unicorns which don't exist today.

Also on the taking up of those offers, when we were younger and before we analyzed it, we did take sexual offers as they appeared. We didn't judge people so heavily. Sometimes "it's just sex". Offers will appear from everywhere, and you don't have to accept them all once your life is trucking, but you will start to see your real options in life.
 

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Can't stimulate a feeling that isn't really there, I can't let go enough to have fun and being around people doesn't really make me happy.
I have a perma-scowl and a resting face that suggests I'm slightly hostile. I'm ultra reserved socially, although I do go out often to social places. I'll usually sit in a spot by myself, drink beer (slowly) and observe the other people interacting. A bit like going to the zoo in many respects. Sitting alone is probably why I get approached so much. I have no group of friends to speak of, just 3 or 4 dotted all over the country so it's that or sit at home by myself which probably isn't healthy and how I came to be 7 years celibate. I've gotten friendly with some people that work at the bar I drink in, but I also know they are friendly in order to sell beer and keep their jobs so I don't read too much
into how they interact with me.

As for the offers thing, I was LTR and faithful from 18-21 then 7 years celibate after that relationship went South. At 27 I started to go out and mingle again for a year or so (which was entirely amphetamine fueled I might add) and had some fun with a few girls in that time then met 'Mrs Blackbird' to be, quit the drugs and now here I am nearly two decades later.
 

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Can't stimulate a feeling that isn't really there, I can't let go enough to have fun and being around people doesn't really make me happy.
I have a perma-scowl and a resting face that suggests I'm slightly hostile. I'm ultra reserved socially, although I do go out often to social places. I'll usually sit in a spot by myself, drink beer (slowly) and observe the other people interacting. A bit like going to the zoo in many respects. Sitting alone is probably why I get approached so much. I have no group of friends to speak of, just 3 or 4 dotted all over the country so it's that or sit at home by myself which probably isn't healthy and how I came to be 7 years celibate. I've gotten friendly with some people that work at the bar I drink in, but I also know they are friendly in order to sell beer and keep their jobs so I don't read too much
into how they interact with me.

As for the offers thing, I was LTR and faithful from 18-21 then 7 years celibate after that relationship went South. At 27 I started to go out and mingle again for a year or so (which was entirely amphetamine fueled I might add) and had some fun with a few girls in that time then met 'Mrs Blackbird' to be, quit the drugs and now here I am nearly two decades later.
Currently on zero drugs and zero pvssy? That might explain the perma scowl...

Did you know some police officers wives starve them intentionally so they can do their job? Other officers wives starve their men because they are bigger azzhole than the hubby.
 

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LOL, I starve myself usually. It's far easier to cope with than figuring other people out, especially women.
Perma scowl is a family trait unfortunately, as is the aspergers, although my father is undiagnosed it's pretty clear he has it too.
My nephew has it and in him it manifests as ADD mostly but it's early days with him (He's only 7) and it's been spotted soon enough
in his education for some measures to be taken which now include medicating the poor little sod. No other males in my family but
us 3 and it's a full house. Christmas is a bundle of laughs at my parents house, meltdowns, meltdowns everywhere. :eek: :D

I can't go back on the gear again, that stuff had me down to skin and bone and my record number of days without
any sleep was 9 although I regularly went a week without sleep. Doable in my 20's perhaps but a rapid route to Hospital
at my age, I was consuming 1/2oz of base amphetamine a week just to function back in the day, this went on for a number
of years and begun after the first two celibate years so I guess I was 23 when I got into all of that.

Returning to topic, I find the gym a great place to disappear into myself. Especially in these socially distanced times.
They have taped little boxes on the floor around each machine, excellent for avoiding conversation and I wear my reading
glasses when I train so I can't see people more than a metre away which avoids the eye contact situation because I'm
entirely oblivious, add earbuds and my pseudo isolation chamber is complete.
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If you are that awesome at pickup, you should probably be posting guides for all of us to do it.

The earbud thing is a legitimate thing. Multiple men in this thread have mentioned it. Earbuds are so prevalent in gyms now that a guy who wants to play in the gym sandbox has to approach women wearing earbuds. It’s more difficult to get the IOIs needed to do an effective approach with earbud wearers.



Alcohol is often the fuel for casual sex. It’s a bit far fetched to imagine casual sex scenarios with neither alcohol nor drugs. The classic home dinner date 2nd or 3rd move usually involves a bottle of wine.





I would have expected that @lost_blackbird was some guy who was just ignored by younger women given his age. Very nice work there @lost_blackbird. A lot of 50+ men are essentially invisible to 20s/30s women. It’s an accomplishment to be pursued by 20s/30s women at age 50+.

A lot of people also need some time to recover post-divorce.



Your expectations are probably too high. I would say the cute or hot category which is 6+ or 7+ by your own subjective standards.

In the times over the last 8 years when I was doing approaches at gyms/fitness classes, I was actually surprised at how few men were using those venues for approaches. I wasn’t doing approaches there when I was in satisfying relationships. When I was needed to find someone, I was always playing in the gym/fitness class sandbox.
If you are that awesome at pickup, you should probably be posting guides for all of us to do it.

it has nothing to do with anything that can be taught in a guide.

those girls just are horny by me from my looks instantly.

i also have very good body language and a very confident/arrogant demeanor but even that im not sure can be taught in writing.

what is so hard for you to understand that if you are a girls type and by type i mean the girl sees you as her 9 or 10 then nothing else really matters.


who wants to play in the gym sandbox has to approach women wearing earbuds. It’s more difficult to get the IOIs needed to do an effective approach with earbud wearers.

lol such nonsense.

try this,

next time you see a girl with eardbuds, walk up to her and use a super indirect opener.

super indirect opener for the gym = "how many sets do you have left?" "do you know where the exit is?" , "did you get those weights upstairs?" ....anything super normal that does NOT in any way show that you are hitting on her.

the girl should respond normally and if she is attracted to you it should be obvious by her body language; if she is not attracted then thank her politely for the info and move along.

if you do the above to 5-10 girls and none of them are attracted to you then i cannot help you because for me for every 5-10 girls i approach at worst i will get 1 who is clearly attracted but usually its for every 3-5 approaches i can find one who likes me.

this is what i plan to do at the gym and i see no reason why it cannot work.


Alcohol is often the fuel for casual sex. It’s a bit far fetched to imagine casual sex scenarios with neither alcohol nor drugs.

honestly man now you are just embarrassing yourself.

almost all the top seduction gurus do NOT drink or do drugs at all.

for example, none of the RSD guys drink or do drugs at all.

i know roosh drank but outside him i cannot
name another seduction guru/teacher who teaches its a good idea to drink or do drugs.

The classic home dinner date 2nd or 3rd move usually involves a bottle of wine.

lol.

wtf?

you call yourself a seducer and you do dinner dates?

am i in the ****ing twilight zone?

i thought everyone in this community knew that doing any sort of typical dinner and/or movie date was a bad move to get laid.

who wants to get naked after stuffing your stomach?

dude are trolling me?


Your expectations are probably too high. I would say the cute or hot category which is 6+ or 7+ by your own subjective standards.

i went at 1 PM on thursday and there where several 9s and 10s so im confident i can find enough to only approach them.

i would never approach a 6 at this stage of my pick up career and 7s are not that rare and can be found in great numbers in several places during the day.
 

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try this,

next time you see a girl with eardbuds, walk up to her and use a super indirect opener.

super indirect opener for the gym = "how many sets do you have left?" "do you know where the exit is?" , "did you get those weights upstairs?" ....anything super normal that does NOT in any way show that you are hitting on her.

the girl should respond normally and if she is attracted to you it should be obvious by her body language; if she is not attracted then thank her politely for the info and move along.

if you do the above to 5-10 girls and none of them are attracted to you then i cannot help you because for me for every 5-10 girls i approach at worst i will get 1 who is clearly attracted but usually its for every 3-5 approaches i can find one who likes me.

this is what i plan to do at the gym and i see no reason why it cannot work.
My sense is that most women would ignore that.

Historically, my go to has been to make strong eye contact and smile and see what happens. If a woman with earbuds has a stone face or doesn't acknowledge it, then she won't be approachable. If there some return of eye contact and possibly a smile, I can approach. Over 90% do not acknowledge my eye contact.

i thought everyone in this community knew that doing any sort of typical dinner and/or movie date was a bad move to get laid.
A dinner date at your place of residence is way different than a dinner date in a restaurant. The seduction community/Manosphere argued against dinner dates in restaurants. I agree with that. I do not do dinner dates in restaurants. Many men in the seduction community have used a light meal with wine in their homes to get laid. Roosh had articles on that when he was in the seduction realm. A dinner date at home is acceptable.
 

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Is this really a thread. Either approach or don't. It's not complicated. What are the chances a smelly, sweaty chick is going to want to go home to your smelly armpits after she just worked out? The gym is not the club/bar. I'd presume if you approach a chick she's given you some IOI, regardless I wouldn't take gym chicks seriously, to begin with...lots have (beefy) boyfriends that are at the gym with them(just different locations). Most are there for attention," look at me in this spandex, lifting -5lbs, bet some desperate guy is going to over analyze how to get his weiner in my overused pooosy."

That being said muscle is not overrated...I've put on some serious mass. Let me put it this way, the chick dating the guy with the pretty face but the flimsy body cheats with the muscular guy with the meh face...that's my experience. I can't maintain relationships(I'm too selfish and uncompromising...oh well) but women love to use me and my other muscular gym bros for short-term relationships, gets old but if the shoe fits wear it. Personally, I'm so much on my grind that I literally miss out on IOI / unless a girl is throwing her self at me or is blatant. I just focus on me at the gym bro, tbh you are thirsty cause you are not focused on your lifes mission and you don't have an abundance of women in your life, and it's obvious. Work on yourself and they will come. Otherwise good luck chasin' lel.
 

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Is this really a thread. Either approach or don't. It's not complicated. What are the chances a smelly, sweaty chick is going to want to go home to your smelly armpits after she just worked out? The gym is not the club/bar. I'd presume if you approach a chick she's given you some IOI, regardless I wouldn't take gym chicks seriously, to begin with...lots have (beefy) boyfriends that are at the gym with them(just different locations). Most are there for attention," look at me in this spandex, lifting -5lbs, bet some desperate guy is going to over analyze how to get his weiner in my overused pooosy."

That being said muscle is not overrated...I've put on some serious mass. Let me put it this way, the chick dating the guy with the pretty face but the flimsy body cheats with the muscular guy with the meh face...that's my experience. I can't maintain relationships(I'm too selfish and uncompromising...oh well) but women love to use me and my other muscular gym bros for short-term relationships, gets old but if the shoe fits wear it. Personally, I'm so much on my grind that I literally miss out on IOI / unless a girl is throwing her self at me or is blatant. I just focus on me at the gym bro, tbh you are thirsty cause you are not focused on your lifes mission and you don't have an abundance of women in your life, and it's obvious. Work on yourself and they will come. Otherwise good luck chasin' lel.
What are the chances a smelly, sweaty chick is going to want to go home to your smelly armpits after she just worked out?

what are the chances a girl who you meet on the train at 1 pm will invite you to spend the day with her 2 min after you saw her?

what are the chances a girl on the way home to her boyfriend who lives with her will instead follow you and spend the next 2 hours with you?

what are the chances you will **** a female investment banker at one of the largest banks in the world?

I've done all the above so please keep your limiting beliefs to yourself.

it's so crazy to me the beliefs people on this forum have and how unaware some of you guys seem to be of how far girls will go if you are a male 9 or 10 to them,

I think im going to start a thread where i show you guys screenshots of the things i can do on tinder thanks to my height and face.

If you guys think taking a girl home from the gym is impossible then im curious how you guys will react to what women allow from me on tinder.


That being said muscle is not overrated...I've put on some serious mass. Let me put it this way, the chick dating the guy with the pretty face but the flimsy body cheats with the muscular guy with the meh face...that's my experience.

lol

muscle is super overrated.

all the muscular guys i know who **** a lot of girls are also tall.

your face and height and are 10x more important then muscle.

Tinder literally released a feature where you need to verify your height because so many of the female members requested this

a short guy who is super muscular could never steal a girl from a tall skinny guy like me.

lol

im honestly dying laughing just thinking about that scenario.

i do NOT even consider guys shorter then me to be competition.

I literally do not even notice guys who are shorter then me as we are not even playing in the same league.

for example, a super muscular 5-9 guy could NEVER steal a girl from a skinny 6-3 guy who has a handsome face.

face and height destroy muscle and its not even close. assuming of course everything else like body language and demeanor is equal.
 

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What are the chances a smelly, sweaty chick is going to want to go home to your smelly armpits after she just worked out?

what are the chances a girl who you meet on the train at 1 pm will invite you to spend the day with her 2 min after you saw her?

what are the chances a girl on the way home to her boyfriend who lives with her will instead follow you and spend the next 2 hours with you?

what are the chances you will **** a female investment banker at one of the largest banks in the world?

I've done all the above so please keep your limiting beliefs to yourself.

it's so crazy to me the beliefs people on this forum have and how unaware some of you guys seem to be of how far girls will go if you are a male 9 or 10 to them,

I think im going to start a thread where i show you guys screenshots of the things i can do on tinder thanks to my height and face.

If you guys think taking a girl home from the gym is impossible then im curious how you guys will react to what women allow from me on tinder.


That being said muscle is not overrated...I've put on some serious mass. Let me put it this way, the chick dating the guy with the pretty face but the flimsy body cheats with the muscular guy with the meh face...that's my experience.

lol

muscle is super overrated.

all the muscular guys i know who **** a lot of girls are also tall.

your face and height and are 10x more important then muscle.

Tinder literally released a feature where you need to verify your height because so many of the female members requested this

a short guy who is super muscular could never steal a girl from a tall skinny guy like me.

lol

im honestly dying laughing just thinking about that scenario.

i do NOT even consider guys shorter then me to be competition.

I literally do not even notice guys who are shorter then me as we are not even playing in the same league.

for example, a super muscular 5-9 guy could NEVER steal a girl from a skinny 6-3 guy who has a handsome face.

face and height destroy muscle and its not even close. assuming of course everything else like body language and demeanor is equal.
If you have no issue getting women, then whats the point of this thread. oh wait you have an issue getting women
 

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If you have no issue getting women, then whats the point of this thread. oh wait you have an issue getting women
lol

did you even read OP

yes i can already **** women from tinder,daygame and nightgame.

and i noticed there is a lot of 9s and 10s at my gym so im looking to **** some of them as well.

what is so hard for you to understand?
 

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My sense is that most women would ignore that.

Historically, my go to has been to make strong eye contact and smile and see what happens. If a woman with earbuds has a stone face or doesn't acknowledge it, then she won't be approachable. If there some return of eye contact and possibly a smile, I can approach. Over 90% do not acknowledge my eye contact.



A dinner date at your place of residence is way different than a dinner date in a restaurant. The seduction community/Manosphere argued against dinner dates in restaurants. I agree with that. I do not do dinner dates in restaurants. Many men in the seduction community have used a light meal with wine in their homes to get laid. Roosh had articles on that when he was in the seduction realm. A dinner date at home is acceptable.
lol.

good luck.
 

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