Why guys should understand the differences between the local game and the global game.

[Clockwerk50]

I know this may be tough for some guys to believe because the world to them is what Andrew Tate and the Manosphere tell them, but most prime women between the ages of 18-22 are either in university or working low level service jobs. I get it, you think every 18 young female is paying her bills through only fans, stripping, and sugar daddies! If you are a young guy at a restaurant surrounded by hot young waitresses and can’t get laid because you are a line cook despite the other other line cooks cleaning up then maybee it’s “you”!

Bold of you to assume all restaurants are the same. A Burger King isn't viewed the same as an upscale restaurant, and a McDonald's in a rough neighborhood isn't the same as a popular restaurant in a nice area. The same goes for bars, a college bar is different from a downtown bar, a hotel bar, or a bar at a highway rest stop. Even working at Google's corporate office isn't the same as working at Nordstrom's corporate office. Different workplaces attract different crowds, hire different kinds of people, and create different social environments. That was my point.

I never said line cooks can't get women or that most young women are on OnlyFans or have sugar daddies. You brought that up, not me.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Bold of you to assume all restaurants are the same. A Burger King isn't viewed the same as an upscale restaurant, and a McDonald's in a rough neighborhood isn't the same as a popular restaurant in a nice area. The same goes for bars, a college bar is different from a downtown bar, a hotel bar, or a bar at a highway rest stop. Even working at Google's corporate office isn't the same as working at Nordstrom's corporate office. Different workplaces attract different crowds, hire different kinds of people, and create different social environments. That was my point.

I never said line cooks can't get women or that most young women are on OnlyFans or have sugar daddies. You brought that up, not me.

Easy Mode: If you live in a major city with a lot of areas full of young people then all you need to do is scout out a restaurant or bar that has younger people going & working there and apply to be a bartender, server, cook, dishwasher, bouncer, or host.

Medium Mode: If you do not live near a city core then find a local Chilis or whatever, but make sure women work there. Next, apply to be a bartender, cook, dishwasher, bouncer, host, or server. I lived in Saskatchewan, Canada and even that ****hole had spots where the "younger"/"hip" crowd of the town went to, so do not give me this BS of it is impossible.

I gave clear guidelines on what to do, and if all y'all got from that was “muh dishwasher,” or "my workplace had no women" then you’re either trolling or lacking basic reading comprehension skills. You really need to get offline if you think young women aren’t working in restaurants, bars, and so on. Funny you mentioned Google’s corporate office, because I used to work there, and the title of the thread was:
"The Fastest way to get laid with a lot of hot women within 1-2 years."

Yeah, I am going to start that thread off with just get a job at Google's corporate office lmao.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Somewhat disagree, two things can be true at once. But you're oversimplifying

If you’re in management, it’s a lot easier to leverage status. One of my old managers at a call center used to hook up with girls on the floor, and it wasn’t a secret that the ones who did got the better accounts. That’s straight-up using rank for personal benefit.
For regular employees though? Yeah, it’s mostly proximity. I hooked up with a girl from the same call center and it had nothing to do with status we just worked next to each other every day.

It seems we have different definitions of "status". What you are describing sounds more like a quid pro quo. A subordinate sleeping with a manager to advance in her career, a student sleeping with a professor to get a better grade, etc. To me, "status" is something that makes you more attractive to women without an obvious exchange of sex for favours.

 

[characternote]

I do think it's a good plan if you're young and good looking, but I also think that if someone thinks they're gonna be suddenly banging loads of hot 18 year olds just because they work as a server, they might be in for some dissappointment. Plinco should do it and report back!

 

[Solomon]

It seems we have different definitions of "status". What you are describing sounds more like a quid pro quo. A subordinate sleeping with a manager to advance in her career, a student sleeping with a professor to get a better grade, etc. To me, "status" is something that makes you more attractive to women without an obvious exchange of sex for favours.

You can sleep with a professor and guess what he will give you an "A" is this quid pro quo or him using his status? I say it's both

Same with the fat manager working at a at high end restraunt who makes a 100K a year, banging the hot 20-year-old waitress. What benefits does she gets? A raise? probably not just better shifts, and she can slack off

I get what you mean, though

 

[Velasco]

It seems we have different definitions of "status".

high status is “a position of superior rank, importance, or prestige within a social or professional hierarchy”. a chef or restaurant manager in a restaurant is high status in that specific environment. a dishwasher or server is not. they can’t use status, because they don’t have high status within that specific environment. they can only leverage their looks+proximity. having high status means you get automatic social proof -girls see everyone sucking up to you. authority - girls see you telling people what to do and them obeying your orders. and the liking principle - girls see your charismatic leader who people like to shoot the sh1t with (the same principles a good looking guy leverages to get laid in cold approach settings (automatic social proof just because your good looking (you’ll have tons of people coming up to you and girls seeing that. authority - leading the girl at the bar or on a date and liking - easy to be charismatic when you already know they like you). all this combined, is how guys in higher status positions get girls they normally wouldn’t in cold approach settings.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Easy Mode: If you live in a major city with a lot of areas full of young people then all you need to do is scout out a restaurant or bar that has younger people going & working there and apply to be a bartender, server, cook, dishwasher, bouncer, or host.

Medium Mode: If you do not live near a city core then find a local Chilis or whatever, but make sure women work there. Next, apply to be a bartender, cook, dishwasher, bouncer, host, or server. I lived in Saskatchewan, Canada and even that ****hole had spots where the "younger"/"hip" crowd of the town went to, so do not give me this BS of it is impossible.

I gave clear guidelines on what to do, and if all y'all got from that was “muh dishwasher,” or "my workplace had no women" then you’re either trolling or lacking basic reading comprehension skills. You really need to get offline if you think young women aren’t working in restaurants, bars, and so on. Funny you mentioned Google’s corporate office, because I used to work there, and the title of the thread was:
"The Fastest way to get laid with a lot of hot women within 1-2 years."

Yeah, I am going to start that thread off with just get a job at Google's corporate office lmao.

Bro, you're arguing against a position I never took instead of responding to the one I actually made.

The point you highlighted, the one I actually made, was that your job and where you work can affect your social status because it can influence how you're perceived and who you're around. That's a pretty uncontroversial statement since not all workplaces or job roles are created equal.

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make in your last comment because it doesn't reference what I actually said. Every time I respond, you end up arguing against something I never claimed, so there's not much for me to debate.

I do think it's a good plan if you're young and good looking, but I also think that if someone thinks they're gonna be suddenly banging loads of hot 18 year olds just because they work as a server, they might be in for some dissappointment. Plinco should do it and report back!

Actually, someone followed the "get a restaurant job" advice last year and failed miserably. Check the thread below. The member got a restaurant job and then realized that the advice doesn't work for every restaurant. He said it depends on the girls you work with, the work culture, and whether or not people actually hang out outside of work.

Unfortunately, whoever gave the "get a restaurant job" advice went MIA when this poster was not successful, and then the poster left the forum because there were no "real-life examples, just a random animal documentary analogy".

Got a job and most of my co-workers are hot girls. How would I go about gaming? (Continued) | SoSuave Discussion Forum

 

[nicksaiz65]

Bro, you're arguing against a position I never took instead of responding to the one I actually made.

The point you highlighted, the one I actually made, was that your job and where you work can affect your social status because it can influence how you're perceived and who you're around. That's a pretty uncontroversial statement since not all workplaces or job roles are created equal.

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make in your last comment because it doesn't reference what I actually said. Every time I respond, you end up arguing against something I never claimed, so there's not much for me to debate.



Actually, someone followed the "get a restaurant job" advice last year and failed miserably. Check the thread below. The member got a restaurant job and then realized that the advice doesn't work for every restaurant. He said it depends on the girls you work with, the work culture, and whether or not people actually hang out outside of work.

Unfortunately, whoever gave the "get a restaurant job" advice went MIA when this poster was not successful, and then the poster left the forum because there were no "real-life examples, just a random animal documentary analogy".

Got a job and most of my co-workers are hot girls. How would I go about gaming? (Continued) | SoSuave Discussion Forum

Instead of going this route, why not just get a job that is paying you something, move to a major city and then meet women from there? Restaurants don’t pay much compared to corporate jobs. At best they should be used as side hustles to build savings faster, for a specific financial goal, or as a stopgap imo.

 

[characternote]

Bro, you're arguing against a position I never took instead of responding to the one I actually made.

The point you highlighted, the one I actually made, was that your job and where you work can affect your social status because it can influence how you're perceived and who you're around. That's a pretty uncontroversial statement since not all workplaces or job roles are created equal.

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make in your last comment because it doesn't reference what I actually said. Every time I respond, you end up arguing against something I never claimed, so there's not much for me to debate.



Actually, someone followed the "get a restaurant job" advice last year and failed miserably. Check the thread below. The member got a restaurant job and then realized that the advice doesn't work for every restaurant. He said it depends on the girls you work with, the work culture, and whether or not people actually hang out outside of work.

Unfortunately, whoever gave the "get a restaurant job" advice went MIA when this poster was not successful, and then the poster left the forum because there were no "real-life examples, just a random animal documentary analogy".

Got a job and most of my co-workers are hot girls. How would I go about gaming? (Continued) | SoSuave Discussion Forum

you just reminded me of some threads on rooshV in the olden days! Some of them guys were going all out to try to cheat nature and were like, trying to open their own businesses so they could hire really pretty young girls etc and get laid with them due to being the boss. I don't remember it working for any of them from memory. I just don't think you can bypass attraction, really. It's always a pre-requisiste. Sure, getting a job where you are around tonnes of young hot girls in the hope of one of them liking you is of course clever. Certainly better odds of getting laid compared to working somewhere where only 2% of the staff are girls lol. But I guess you are doing that every time you go too a bar where the ratio is good, really.

I suppose it's different if you are willing to be like 'Ok, you can have the week off of work this week if you suck me off', but at that point, surely id' make sense to just get a really hot, young hooker lol

 

[The Duke]

I had a neighbor in his mid 30's that managed an Olive Garden. He was married and got caught banging some mid 20's girl he worked with. After his divorce he opened up that he had plenty of girls to date that worked for him. I never saw what they looked like, but he certainly wasn't much to look at.

Another friend of mine worked at multiple bars as a bartender. He was in his 20's and a good looking guy and he had plenty of women to pick from including fellow staff and customers. He went on to marry some customer.

I've always heard the bar/restaurant industry dates inside their own group.

 

[nicksaiz65]

you just reminded me of some threads on rooshV in the olden days! Some of them guys were going all out to try to cheat nature and were like, trying to open their own businesses so they could hire really pretty young girls etc and get laid with them due to being the boss. I don't remember it working for any of them from memory. I just don't think you can bypass attraction, really. It's always a pre-requisiste. Sure, getting a job where you are around tonnes of young hot girls in the hope of one of them liking you is of course clever. Certainly better odds of getting laid compared to working somewhere where only 2% of the staff are girls lol. But I guess you are doing that every time you go too a bar where the ratio is good, really.

I suppose it's different if you are willing to be like 'Ok, you can have the week off of work this week if you suck me off', but at that point, surely id' make sense to just get a really hot, young hooker lol

Ah, Roosh V. What an OG. A lot of the points he made hold up to this day.

 

[Bigpapa]

I do think it's a good plan if you're young and good looking, but I also think that if someone thinks they're gonna be suddenly banging loads of hot 18 year olds just because they work as a server, they might be in for some dissappointment. Plinco should do it and report back!

i do think that being a barman at a good bar / cafe ( that is frequented by women ) is way better than being a server/ waiter / barman at a restaurant

I even heard that Uber drivers are getting decent action

 

[Clockwerk50]

Instead of going this route, why not just get a job that is paying you something, move to a major city and then meet women from there? Restaurants don’t pay much compared to corporate jobs. At best they should be used as side hustles to build savings faster, for a specific financial goal, or as a stopgap imo.

Well, OP can correct me if I am wrong, but his main point seems to be that your status depends on the environment you are in, which is basically the big fish, little pond effect where someone can seem more impressive or higher-status because they stand out in one ecosystem, even if they would not stand out as much in another. He used restaurants as an example because they can be more relaxed, have younger and more social staff, and attractive and socially active people can create more opportunities.

I think his point gets lost because he does not explain it clearly, his examples are not always the best, and he does not mention other variables. That is why people have a hard time understanding his argument, and he ends up arguing against points people never make.

 

[Plinco]

Plinco should do it and report back!

hahaha

I banged a few hot cashiers in my 20's when I used to work at a grocery store.