Why even keep going?

[nicksaiz65]

Maybe this isn’t exactly the right place for this, but I don’t even know anymore. I really value you guys opinions and maybe you all can give me some insight.

I failed another test today that I studied hours for. While I’m sure I can become a Master Don Juan given enough time and effort, I don’t know about school. My career might be ruined. I could be thrown out of school, and idk how I’ll get a job with my shyt GPA.

I could turn it around and graduate yes, but what’s the point of living in a world where I have a shytty Comp Sci GPA and cant make a job? I might not be able to recover it. To make matters worse, everyone else is so happy effortlessly and I have to work so hard and change everything about myself to have a chance of getting girls or being happy. Literally nothing in this world excites me anymore. But if I quit life, I’ll never live up to my full potential, whatever that is.

What’s the point in going on? I’m so miserable, and I’m honestly considering therapy. Maybe this is why I can’t make grades?

Opinions would be great. Mods, if this post is too dark or in the wrong section, feel free to remove it.

 

[marvinlfloresq]

Dude, get therapy if you have to. News flash, if you in school, then hit the books.

Get a tutor. I hope you are at least studying something you enjoy. I failed Math 101 twice, and barely pass Bio 102. I got an F on a design course, but kept trying and finally got my B.F.A

If you are sad, Go to a strip joint alone if you have to. * Clear your head. Life is so much fun once you understand it, you only have power of yourself and your time. Use it wisely.

Stop worrying so much. Just keep studying, it will pay off. As for dating, Read The Game by Neal Strauss, it is so much fun. Then read understanding relationships by coach corey, & finally The Rational Male. You'll be fine.

 

[Vivacity]

What the fukc, do something else, if you don't like it or don't succeed in whatever you are doing. Not everyone works in the same field they majored in. Ask anthropology, sociology, social work majors. You could earn a living doing something else, even if it is flipping burgers at McDonald's.

Ya, your post is in the wrong forum. What the fukc.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Dude, get therapy if you have to. News flash, if you in school, then hit the books.

Get a tutor. I hope you are at least studying something you enjoy. I failed Math 101 twice, and barely pass Bio 102. I got an F on a design course, but kept trying and finally got my B.F.A

If you are sad, Go to a strip joint alone if you have to. * Clear your head. Life is so much fun once you understand it, you only have power of yourself and your time. Use it wisely.

Stop worrying so much. Just keep studying, it will pay off. As for dating, Read The Game by Neal Strauss, it is so much fun. Then read understanding relationships by coach corey, & finally The Rational Male. You'll be fine.

I was so pissed cause I studied and got tutoring yet still failed. Spectacular. I’ve messed up so much in school that even if i make grades from now on my GPA stil might be shyt. So it makes me say what’s the fvcking point? I’m supposed to be a genius Comp Sci major but I’m failing badly at that.

I’ve read all those books except The Game by Neil Strauss. Good reads.

 

[nicksaiz65]

What the fukc, do something else, if you don't like it or don't succeed in whatever you are doing. Not everyone works in the same field they majored in. Ask anthropology, sociology, social work majors. You could earn a living doing something else, even if it is flipping burgers at McDonald's.

Ya, your post is in the wrong forum. What the fukc.

I’m a really good musician. But how am I gonna be rich if I major in that?

Yes I know, but the Don Juan opinion has never steered me wrong. So I thought I may as well post up here

 

[marmel75]

Maybe this isn’t exactly the right place for this, but I don’t even know anymore. I really value you guys opinions and maybe you all can give me some insight.

I failed another test today that I studied hours for. While I’m sure I can become a Master Don Juan given enough time and effort, I don’t know about school. My career might be ruined. I could be thrown out of school, and idk how I’ll get a job with my shyt GPA.

I could turn it around and graduate yes, but what’s the point of living in a world where I have a shytty Comp Sci GPA and cant make a job? I might not be able to recover it. To make matters worse, everyone else is so happy effortlessly and I have to work so hard and change everything about myself to have a chance of getting girls or being happy. Literally nothing in this world excites me anymore. But if I quit life, I’ll never live up to my full potential, whatever that is.

What’s the point in going on? I’m so miserable, and I’m honestly considering therapy. Maybe this is why I can’t make grades?

Opinions would be great. Mods, if this post is too dark or in the wrong section, feel free to remove it.

First of all your ability to program has ZERO and I mean ZERO correlation to your GPA.

Success at Tests = memorization. Success at Programming = understanding concepts and patterns. You cannot and never will become a good programmer by memorization.

In all my years of interviewing at companies in all different insustries, I have never one time been asked what my GPA was. Never once. Companies don't care about what your GPA was. Maybe if you are going to Law School or Medical school they do but as a general rule they do not. They want to know if you have the ability to help them solve their problems. As long as you have a piece of paper that said you graduated from a college with a degree in your field that is good enough.

Can you program is the question? Write some code. Go to Leetcode or HackerRank or Code Wars and do some coding challenges. How far up the ladder can you get with these? At Minimum to be a professional programmer you should be able to solve the intermediate challenges fairly easily.

Your ability to code will determine how far you go, not a GPA.

 

[nicksaiz65]

First of all your ability to program has ZERO and I mean ZERO correlation to your GPA.

Success at Tests = memorization. Success at Programming = understanding concepts and patterns. You cannot and never will become a good programmer by memorization.

In all my years of interviewing at companies in all different insustries, I have never one time been asked what my GPA was. Never once. Companies don't care about what your GPA. They want to know if you have the ability to help them solve their problems. As long as you have a piece of paper that said you graduated from a college with a degree in your field that is good enough.

Can you program is the question? Write some code. Go to Leetcode or HackerRank or Code Wars and do some coding challenges. How far up the ladder can you get with these? At Minimum to be a professional programmer you should be able to solve the intermediate challenges fairly easily.

Your ability to code will determine how far you go, not a GPA.

Really? That’s crazy, people have always told me if my GPA wasn’t good that I’m pretty much hosed. A lot of my friends do leetcode actually now that I think about it.

 

[marmel75]

Really? People have always told me if my GPA wasn’t good that I’m pretty much hosed. A lot of my friends do leetcode actually now that I think about it.

BS. Maybe if you are trying to work at Silicon Valley but at normal places nobody gives a crap. People think Silicon Valley is so great but when you get paid 250K and still have to sleep in your car because housing prices are so ridiculous its not a real good trade off.

Plenty of good jobs in affordable cities where your money will go a lot farther.

 

[nicksaiz65]

BS. Maybe if you are trying to work at Silicon Valley but at normal places nobody gives a crap. People think Silicon Valley is so great but when you get paid 250K and still have to sleep in your car because housing prices are so ridiculous its not a real good trade off.

Plenty of good jobs in affordable cities where your money will go a lot farther.

That’s honestly such a relief. I thought I was ruined for getting a job tbh. If all else fails, I can program in the side and put everything into violin

 

[EyeBRollin]

BS. Maybe if you are trying to work at Silicon Valley but at normal places nobody gives a crap. People think Silicon Valley is so great but when you get paid 250K and still have to sleep in your car because housing prices are so ridiculous its not a real good trade off.

Plenty of good jobs in affordable cities where your money will go a lot farther.

$250K is $250K. There is no replacement for income. You can always find a way to cut expenses.

 

[marvinlfloresq]

Wow, props for trying to keep a good GPA. Funny, last week on an aplicacion, it asked what my GPA was. Anyway, listen we all fail. So if you flunk the semester so be it, just drop the course if you can.

Stop thinking about being rich lol. The idea is to get a good job at a fortune 500 company with benifits. 45k, then 60k, then 150k all based on the job titles. I am glad you posted this, you are doing great. If you flunk, take the semester or course again.

Go have fun, clear your head. When i say read the books, i mean understand them. Finally, stop stressing, instead go research where you wanna do your intership once you graduate! These are the best times man!!@

I flunked an important design course on my final semester... GPA went from 4.0 to 3.5 lol, because I was so cought up in the PUA when it started, i dont regret it at all lmao. Read the game by Neil s, thats how it all started ... best of luck buddy. Cheers!

 

[Spaz]

I've been interviewing new hires a good 13 to 15 years now.

Mostly for technicians, engineers, programmers, analysts up to senior management positions.

I don't bother myself to check someone's gpa. All I'm interested in, is a person's passion for the job, effectiveness can be trained/learned as time passes but not passion.

I hire base solely on that.

 

[marmel75]

$250K is $250K. There is no replacement for income. You can always find a way to cut expenses.

Not when you live in a place where rents for 1 bedroom apartments are 3K+. 250K doesn't go very far in those places.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Not when you live in a place where rents for 1 bedroom apartments are 3K+. 250K doesn't go very far in those places.

Like I said, there is no replacement for income. A person making $250K can figure out how to make that number go further.

 

[marmel75]

Like I said, there is no replacement for income. A person making $250K can figure out how to make that number go further.

The easiest way is to move to places where the cost of living is far lower and take a pay cut. At least the smart way is. Not to mention I'd never spend 4 hours a day commuting back and forth to work like a lot of people do on the "highway" which looks more like a parking lot many times.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The easiest way is to move to places where the cost of living is far lower and take a pay cut. At least the smart way is. Not to mention I'd never spend 4 hours a day commuting back and forth to work like a lot of people do on the "highway" which looks more like a parking lot many times.

That's not beneficial, and I'd love to take this debate a step further maybe in thread. Pay cut = lower lifetime net worth. A $500,000 house in a major metro area is worth $500,000. It is 5 times more valuable than your small market $100,000 house. A 15% savings rate at $250,000 buys a lot more stock than a 15% savings rate at $40,000. I cannot in good faith recommend to the OP or any man to take a pay cut. There is simply no replacement for income. Show me the damn money.

 

[marmel75]

Net income = Gross income - taxes - expenses.

Basic economics. Except no developer making 250K would be making 40K in another place. Probably 100K.

As 250K lands you in a far higher tax bracket than 100K you have a bunch of money coming off the top in taxes. Then you look at living expenses. An extra 3-4K or more a month for something half as good. I mean 1100 square foot houses that look like shacks go for over $1 million dollars there. Food/Driving/Gas/Insurance/Entertainment...probably another 1.5K or more extra per month. So you are then spending 4.5-5.5K extra a month in expenses. Are you making up that much money? Probably not. You might be breaking even. But what happens if you lose your job? Its a lot easier to find a way to manage 2K a month in expenses than it is 8K a month...

Cant save money when its flying out the door for expenses. So if I'm able to end up saving the same amount of money, or nearly the same amount of money on less income why would I want to live in a place that is overpriced and overcrowded?

But dont believe me...believe the scores of developers leaving Silicon Valley/San Fran/San Jose for other place due to the ridiculous cost of living there. Its not a joke that dudes making 250K a year are sleeping in their vehicles because they can't afford rents. Average rent for a house there is about $5500. That is ludicrous. That's like 2.5 months total expenses where I live.

https://tech.co/silicon-valley-losing-tech-talent-2018-01

https://hackernoon.com/barely-scraping-by-with-a-250-000-salary-in-silicon-valley-d2b5d665c1c0

 

[EyeBRollin]

Net income = Gross income - taxes - expenses.

Basic economics. Except no developer making 250K would be making 40K in another place. Probably 100K.

It was a general example. But the idea is if all is equal, higher income = higher net worth. By equal, if expenses make up a same portion of your income, you always take more income. And as I said, it is easier to reduce expenses than increase income.

As 250K lands you in a far higher tax bracket than 100K you have a bunch of money coming off the top in taxes.

At that income, there are plenty of avenues to reduce adjusted gross income.

Then you look at living expenses. An extra 2-3K or more a month for something half as good. I mean 1100 swuare foot houses that look like shacks go for over $1 million dollars there. Food/Driving/Gas/Insurance/Entertainment...probably another 1.5K or more extra per month. So you are then spending 3.5-4.5K extra a month in expenses. Are you making up that much money? Probably not. You might be breaking even. But what happens if you lose your job? Its a lot easier to find a way to manage 2K a month in expenses than it is 7K a month...

You must not make a lot of money nor do you live in a major city. Like I said, it is much easier to reduce expenses than increase income. A person in Silicon Valley should have roommates, and look to buy income producing real estate in a cheaper area. Driving is not a necessity in key major cities, and even less so now with ridesharing. A person making $250K that hasn't figured all of this out most likely never will.

Cant save money when its flying out the door for expenses. So if I'm able to end up saving the same amount of money, or nearly the same amount of money on less income why would I want to live in a place that is overpriced and overcrowded?

I already showed you above. Higher salary purchases more valuable assets. It's simple math.

But dont believe me...believe the scores of developers leaving Silicon Valley/San Fran/San Jose for other place due to the ridiculous cost of living there. Its not a joke that dudes making 250K a year are sleeping in their vehicles because they can't afford rents.

https://tech.co/silicon-valley-losing-tech-talent-2018-01

Yeah, It's really hard out here for people making $250K... *eyeroll*

 

[marmel75]

It was a general example. But the idea is if all is equal, higher income = higher net worth. By equal, if expenses make up a same portion of your income, you always take more income. And as I said, it is easier to reduce expenses than increase income.



At that income, there are plenty of avenues to reduce adjusted gross income.



You must not make a lot of money nor do you live in a major city. Like I said, it is much easier to reduce expenses than increase income. A person in Silicon Valley should have roommates, and look to buy income producing real estate in a cheaper area. Driving is not a necessity in key major cities, and even less so now with ridesharing. A person making $250K that hasn't figured all of this out most likely never will.



I already showed you above. Higher salary purchases more valuable assets. It's simple math.



Yeah, It's really hard out here for people making $250K... *eyeroll*

Of course you could always reduce expenses. You could just become homeless and sleep in the street and save tons of money on rents. But there are a lot of other people already doing the same thing out there apparently.

You could live in a cesspool for $1500 a month. For $1500 a month here I could own a 2500 square foot house with an acre or two of land. Its all about choices and what people value.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Of course you could always reduce expenses. You could just become homeless and sleep in the street and save tons of money on rents. But there are a lot of other people already doing the same thing out there apparently.

You could live in a cesspool for $1500 a month. For $1500 a month here I could own a 2500 square foot house with an acre or two of land. Its all about choices and what people value.

Correct. But what you won't be earning a $250,000 salary while doing that. It's just a fact of markets.