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Why do women tell us men to be 'humble'?

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Well it could be when it comes to random girls (and most likely is a type shi't test), but what when it is like your sister or mom that tell you to be more 'humble" then?
I never thought about this but be/can it happen that our family female members like your sister and mom test us guys too?
What do you guys think about that one?
I don’t think it’s a test. I know, especially single mothers, have a self righteous vendetta to make their male children “more respectful” of women. Heard it in my teens. Heard it all my life. These mothers were ran through because they couldn’t stay away from the wrong men.
They couldn’t help themselves and have done some ugly things to the little girly boys. They ran over them.

This is what is happening. Have actually heard a husband or two back this shyt up when their dominant wives rule the roost and try to mold girly boys.

have watched older sisters dress their little brothers up in girl clothes and make fun of them.
 

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You can be humble and still an accomplished and sincerely powerful individual.

the colloquial in terms of personality used here is the first definition - to not be arrogant or haughty. Not being of low social rank.

To lead others, arrogance and haughty behaviours are not effective. They are the behaviour of a tyrant, of someone who is not well fitted for authority, or someone who never had authority, resented those that do, and now wishes to abuse it.

The truly great and loved Generals were ones who would muck in with their men. Who treated their men well and did not lord it over them.

Arrogance may be a step from being weak and passive, but it’s only a step towards real power.

One can both be humble and supremely powerful. Arthur Wellesley was one of the greatest commanders the British Empire ever had, and he was renowned to shun luxury, look after his men well and hold no individuals personal background against him, despite being from nobility.

Arrogance is a poor man’s confidence, it’s not for the thinking man. It’s fake.

The art of social power is not through arrogance. It will win you nothing but enemies.
 

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Given my look far from model type I can attest that arrogance, bad behaviour, lack of empathy and machiavelism paid dividends.
Before this metoo stuff I was used to forcefully kiss girls playing hard to get in clubs and most of the times they reciprocated, most of them actually told them that it turned them on.

What women mean probably is for betas not to step outside their place...to keep their own place in fact.

Anyway generally and arrogant man full of himself is hardly compliant toward women demands so they cant get resources out of him.
 

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Given my look far from model type I can attest that arrogance, bad behaviour, lack of empathy and machiavelism paid dividends.
Before this metoo stuff I was used to forcefully kiss girls playing hard to get in clubs and most of the times they reciprocated, most of them actually told them that it turned them on.

What women mean probably is for betas not to step outside their place...to keep their own place in fact.

Anyway generally and arrogant man full of himself is hardly compliant toward women demands so they cant get resources out of him.
In context of what I put above, this is 100% correct in terms with actually dealing with women. Women LOVE the show. I remember totally d1cking some dude in the taxi queue, took his cab and was like “what you gonna do”

this girl was no bad girl but I couldn’t keep her off me all night.

I think the point I was making above was a broader point about a frame in general in life, being generally arrogant and haughty has its limitations socially. No woman wants a guy everyone thinks is a total d1ck.
 

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I don't care what they say, really.

But "humble" and "proud" are not mutually exclusive. You can be both.
 

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One can both be humble and supremely powerful. Arthur Wellesley was one of the greatest commanders the British Empire ever had, and he was renowned to shun luxury, look after his men well and hold no individuals personal background against him, despite being from nobility.
Am reminded of General Eisenhower.
 

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Well I just stumbled across this video which I think has some interesting view points on the subject:
 

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So she wants us to act lower rank to herself and perhaps the people around us?
Yes, and there might be one more reason. A safety reason.

Lack of arrogance keeps violent men away.

An arrogant man attracts attention and all comers/competitors to see what he's got that makes him so braggadocio. Women typically try to avoid having violence near them or around them.
 

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Yes, and there might be one more reason. A safety reason.

Lack of arrogance keeps violent men away.

An arrogant man attracts attention and all comers/competitors to see what he's got that makes him so braggadocio. Women typically try to avoid having violence near them or around them.
Makes sense
 

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Yes, and there might be one more reason. A safety reason.

Lack of arrogance keeps violent men away.

An arrogant man attracts attention and all comers/competitors to see what he's got that makes him so braggadocio. Women typically try to avoid having violence near them or around them.
One man's confidence is perceived as "arrogance" by another. Some men move in confidence.
 

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Yes, that confidence is valuable.
It can anger others that don't have it but want it. Crabs in the bucket.

Confidence is the first trait women say they are looking for in a man.
 

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Yes, that confidence is valuable.
It can anger others that don't have it but want it. Crabs in the bucket.

Confidence is the first trait women say they are looking for in a man.
Crabs in a bucket is real! I'm starting to think that half the time those are "automatic" behaviors that sometime the crabs aren't even thinking about, it's mostly subconscious and automatic....
 

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Crabs in a bucket is real! I'm starting to think that half the time those are "automatic" behaviors that sometime the crabs aren't even thinking about, it's mostly subconscious and automatic....
I think your instinct is right.
Try challenging yourself to learn the Acceptance game.
It's a game of learning the psychological and 'selftalk' tools to accept behaviours like for example, the crabs in a bucket behaviour as mostly subconscious and automatic.

This is the game I've been playing for the last 5 full years(I went to first meeting in January 2016) now while learning al-anon, aa and acoa concepts and tricks for surviving psychologically with Accepting the family disease of alcoholism.

Something as simple as phoning someone at a predetermined time(the other day this happened)and having had the last phone call experience go quite well but then this phone call experience them changing personality. (they 'answer' their phone but don't say anything...waiting for you to say something first. They laugh maniacally at your discomfort. They use sarcasm and condemning words, generally making you feel through horror of their insanity that you regret calling them)
Its fascinating stuff to learn how to cope with Acceptance of people without internalising their hurt as your own hurt.
Its fascinating being able to detach with love and keep the focus on yourself and to realise any horrifying interactions with them are the direct result of how the disease of alcoholism has impacted and mutated them.
Much like any other disease like diabetes or a condition like cancer can alter a person. If you wouldn't be prejudiced against them for having diabetes or cancer you must not be prejudiced against them for the disease of alcoholism either.(people may not have drank for years but the disease is still running them-its covert and difficult to remember you're interacting with someone with this disease when you no longer see them drunk)

Crabs in a bucket is one of the common indicators of this family disease of alcoholism.

There's dozens of mentalities like this. It is fascinating learning the tricks for maintaining my own sanity to learn how to Accept other people and myself and our disease.
 
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"You know you should should be more humble" Ppffft! (sigh....)
99 of 100 women friendzone the "humble good guys" and fvck the "braggard bad guy".

Girflriends, wifes, mothers and sisters are trying to manipulate you that way. They try to keep you in their social environment.
You are supposed to stay in your definded place in their frame and play your role that suits their wants and needs (not become a rock star and fvck around).
 

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99 of 100 women friendzone the "humble good guys" and fvck the "braggard bad guy".

Girflriends, wifes, mothers and sisters are trying to manipulate you that way. They try to keep you in their social environment.
You are supposed to stay in your definded place in their frame and play your role that suits their wants and needs (not become a rock star and fvck around).
"Trying to keep you in their social environment "
 

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99 of 100 women friendzone the "humble good guys" and fvck the "braggard bad guy".

Girflriends, wifes, mothers and sisters are trying to manipulate you that way. They try to keep you in their social environment.
You are supposed to stay in your definded place in their frame and play your role that suits their wants and needs (not become a rock star and fvck around).
That is interesting points...
 
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