"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why do people date?

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In order as a PUA to pick up women, we have to know what women want. Is it just sex, the physical pleasure? Most men believe this is what they are ultimately seeking. Is it laughing to pass the time of our lives pleasurably? I suppose most women are seeking this as a prelude to sex.

I think for me, my greatest hunger in my relations with people is to build a connection with them. I want to feel as though my true self (not a fake self) is being recognized and appreciated. It's not necessarily profound subjects that bring it out, it can be very light ones. But the most important part is that I want to feel understood, I want to feel funny and interesting. Is that what women are looking for too?

Neg hits are of course designed to make people *realize* they want your kindness, so that it's that much sweeter when they get it. It's basically similar in principle to a commercial with oozing, warm chocolate or whatever else.

Not a very clear question I guess, I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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izza said:
I think for me, my greatest hunger in my relations with people is to build a connection with them. I want to feel as though my true self (not a fake self) is being recognized and appreciated.
I never really thought about it in these terms, but I feel the same way! I find it very fulfilling to have a woman desire me and I think a fake persona takes a lot away from that feeling.

I also enjoy dating a lot. I like to be out with a girl, having fun, getting to know her, sharing conversations and experiences etc. I've been with my girlfriend almost 6 months and we are still dating and having fun.
 

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Not a very clear question I guess, I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.
We go through the trouble because we want yet another thing in our lives that brings us happiness. Of course, this is assuming that you're not just looking to get laid.
 

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Sean O said:
We go through the trouble because we want yet another thing in our lives that brings us happiness. Of course, this is assuming that you're not just looking to get laid.
That would be the ideal> Do you think it's realistic? I think that in a lot of cases people are looking to get dates more to end lonliness than to add another joy to our lives. I'll tell you straight up that this has been the case for me, and still is sometimes.

These days I justify chasing after women by saying that it gets me off my arse and improving myself. No small benefit, nor is it a small motivation...

Do you really know anybody who is dating to add "yet another joy?" I love women but they are a pain to keep around sometimes! It takes a gargantuan effort to keep a marriage working, for example.
 

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Well, I'm a little wiser than when I first replied to this thread, so I think I can give you a better answer now...

Have you and a friend of yours ever gone out, just the two of you, to do something? It's the same kinda thing with a girl you're dating; you want to spend time with her and have fun. The difference is that there's sexual attraction as well, and therefore kino, kissing, etc. Once again, this is assuming you aren't just looking to get laid.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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None of these answers are broad enough. Aren't we sufficient without a woman? Aren't we?
 

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izza said:
None of these answers are broad enough. Aren't we sufficient without a woman? Aren't we?
We have d*cks,so we cant live or be sufficient with out women,because nature makes our d*cks horny for women,its nature and women need us all part of nature :)
 

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i haven't been with a girl for ages and i'm still happy/living. thank god for the hand.
 

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We have d*cks,so we cant live or be sufficient with out women,because nature makes our d*cks horny for women,its nature and women need us all part of nature :)
There we go, now we're getting answers!

A guy can't be truly happy without women? What about a guy without hands he he
 

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I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.
Because we like to. It's as simple as that. Think of it like this: If there's a certain TV show you love to watch, you'll make time for it. If you can't make time for it, you'll tape it. Why do you do these things all for a TV show? Because you LIKE watching it.

Just don't think too hard about this stuff, man.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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