"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why do people date?

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In order as a PUA to pick up women, we have to know what women want. Is it just sex, the physical pleasure? Most men believe this is what they are ultimately seeking. Is it laughing to pass the time of our lives pleasurably? I suppose most women are seeking this as a prelude to sex.

I think for me, my greatest hunger in my relations with people is to build a connection with them. I want to feel as though my true self (not a fake self) is being recognized and appreciated. It's not necessarily profound subjects that bring it out, it can be very light ones. But the most important part is that I want to feel understood, I want to feel funny and interesting. Is that what women are looking for too?

Neg hits are of course designed to make people *realize* they want your kindness, so that it's that much sweeter when they get it. It's basically similar in principle to a commercial with oozing, warm chocolate or whatever else.

Not a very clear question I guess, I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.

Izza
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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izza said:
I think for me, my greatest hunger in my relations with people is to build a connection with them. I want to feel as though my true self (not a fake self) is being recognized and appreciated.
I never really thought about it in these terms, but I feel the same way! I find it very fulfilling to have a woman desire me and I think a fake persona takes a lot away from that feeling.

I also enjoy dating a lot. I like to be out with a girl, having fun, getting to know her, sharing conversations and experiences etc. I've been with my girlfriend almost 6 months and we are still dating and having fun.
 

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Not a very clear question I guess, I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.
We go through the trouble because we want yet another thing in our lives that brings us happiness. Of course, this is assuming that you're not just looking to get laid.
 

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Sean O said:
We go through the trouble because we want yet another thing in our lives that brings us happiness. Of course, this is assuming that you're not just looking to get laid.
That would be the ideal> Do you think it's realistic? I think that in a lot of cases people are looking to get dates more to end lonliness than to add another joy to our lives. I'll tell you straight up that this has been the case for me, and still is sometimes.

These days I justify chasing after women by saying that it gets me off my arse and improving myself. No small benefit, nor is it a small motivation...

Do you really know anybody who is dating to add "yet another joy?" I love women but they are a pain to keep around sometimes! It takes a gargantuan effort to keep a marriage working, for example.
 

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Well, I'm a little wiser than when I first replied to this thread, so I think I can give you a better answer now...

Have you and a friend of yours ever gone out, just the two of you, to do something? It's the same kinda thing with a girl you're dating; you want to spend time with her and have fun. The difference is that there's sexual attraction as well, and therefore kino, kissing, etc. Once again, this is assuming you aren't just looking to get laid.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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None of these answers are broad enough. Aren't we sufficient without a woman? Aren't we?
 

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izza said:
None of these answers are broad enough. Aren't we sufficient without a woman? Aren't we?
We have d*cks,so we cant live or be sufficient with out women,because nature makes our d*cks horny for women,its nature and women need us all part of nature :)
 

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i haven't been with a girl for ages and i'm still happy/living. thank god for the hand.
 

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CrazyGuy said:
We have d*cks,so we cant live or be sufficient with out women,because nature makes our d*cks horny for women,its nature and women need us all part of nature :)
There we go, now we're getting answers!

A guy can't be truly happy without women? What about a guy without hands he he
 

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I'm just trying to figure out why we go through so much trouble.
Because we like to. It's as simple as that. Think of it like this: If there's a certain TV show you love to watch, you'll make time for it. If you can't make time for it, you'll tape it. Why do you do these things all for a TV show? Because you LIKE watching it.

Just don't think too hard about this stuff, man.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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