"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why do girls keep thinking I want to just "hang out" with them?

skinnydart

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For some reason all the girls I've gone on "dates" with think that I'm just "hanging out" with them. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I mean, when I call...

ME: Hey kara, it's skinnydart
HER: Hey! blah, blah
ME: Yeah, I was just calling to see if you wanted to go see movie name with me tomorrow.
HER: Tomorrow evening... yeah I don't work tomorrow so that'll work.
ME: Great, I get off of work at 5:30, so I'll pick you up at 5:45 at your dorm and we'll go get some dinner before?
HER: Ok, yeah, it'll be fun to hang out.

I'm sitting there thinking "uh, didn't I just ask you on a date".

And their behavior on the date shows the same thing, like they're suprised when I tell her I'm actually picking her up and we're not driving our own seperate cars, and then she starts chatting with the waiter (some guy she evidently knew) who basicly asked her out in front of me while she completely ignores me, she talks about other guy's she's dat(ed/ing). It's so annoying!

How do I make it clear that I'm actually wanting to date her not just hang out with her? Note: these girls are all juniors in college, 2+ years older than me, I'm 17)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Microphone Fiend

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check out Tyler Duerdens archives (i think) @ Fastseduction. If thats' the guy i remember his game was tailored and gurls always thot that they were just hanging out, and they'd like go out with him wearing sweatpants and all this other sh!t you wudn't wear on a date, but he was able to lay them consistently
 

nw1512

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Stop acting like a friend to them and work on building some attraction toward you.

She make it clear what the dynamic was when she said "it will be fun to hang out"

Make it clear what you want to happen.

Get them to pick you up and take you next time, and the time after that etc.
 

Tha Realnezz

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Cuz you come off and look like the type of guy who would be "just freinds" with a woman.

You need to work on establishing your attraction right of the bat through b/l and a better choice of words.

You can make a freindship into a sex-love thing depending on your situation though so don't just haul ass cuz of that.
 

ScrewIt

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dude where's the kino, wheres the date kiss?

stop treating them like friends and treat them like you want them.
show off your maleness, by being a male. dont be another one of her gf's.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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