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Why aren't ladies upfront about already having kids?

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Nothing against kids, but why are ladies upfront about having kids? One of the ladies I was messaging just gave me her number and wants to meet up. Oh, btw, she has 2 kids. Nothing in her profile. Just waists everyone's time. Most post this in their profile. I find it a bit deceitful. She also added, hope that doesn't scare you off.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Way too much drama. Plus, every time I tried, eventually they wanted to intro to their kids. I then say no, and then it's just a turd storm. Damn sucks too. She was one of the younger and more attractive ones.
 

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She;s got different goals than you got. If you can get her to bang, do so. If you can't, respect another human being for having different goals than you. Not all people wanna sleep around.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If she's hot, go for a drink. I know for a fact that MILFs are usually DTF on the first or second night. Then, after that, if you need to get your rocks off, as long as her interest is high, continue on. Just don't pay for anything. 50/50 on drinks and a tapa. She knows her value is down with kids. Use it to your advantage. as @marmel75 stated, if you're just looking to get laid, I am sure that can be arranged with her pretty fast; if you play your cards right.
 

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Wastes not waists....

And like single men with kids women in particular don't want to scare off a date... no real mystery....
 

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If you're dealing with online dating, then these kind of things are expected.
I have stopped online dating entirely because the market is saturated with single moms.
Be prepared to get frame tested often with single parents.
 

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If you're dealing with online dating, then these kind of things are expected.
I have stopped online dating entirely because the market is saturated with single moms.
Be prepared to get frame tested often with single parents.
It's a minefield. Two that I was messaging just dropped that bomb. I just don't want to get involved with that family drama. Rather not play, so I don't have to worry about my frame. I even specifically state this in my profile; yet they message me. Even really hot ones, I mean Eva Mendes hot. Still haven't replied. Both have 2 kids.
 

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Just waists everyone's time.
Maybe she was trying to be hip. Maybe she had just finished a joint. Or it could be that she is just sloppy about keeping folks a breast of her situation. Either that or she didn't want to stick her neck out by mouthing off. I've actually got to hand it to her for not blaring it out since most women's profiles say something like "proud mom" with a picture of the product of another man's loins, while proudly showing off her naval and who nose what.
 

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Nothing against kids, but why are ladies upfront about having kids? One of the ladies I was messaging just gave me her number and wants to meet up. Oh, btw, she has 2 kids. Nothing in her profile. Just waists everyone's time. Most post this in their profile. I find it a bit deceitful. She also added, hope that doesn't scare you off.
Women's sexual market value (SMV) plummets with age and children. Stretched out vag, likely needs to do her vag exercises but doesn't, and they're accumulation of massive amount of government resources (ie tax dollars).

Single moms:

  1. Picked the wrong man or
  2. Chased the man away
Take your pick. Its not a good fit. Raising Chad's baby is regarded.
 

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It's a minefield. Two that I was messaging just dropped that bomb. I just don't want to get involved with that family drama. Rather not play, so I don't have to worry about my frame. I even specifically state this in my profile; yet they message me. Even really hot ones, I mean Eva Mendes hot. Still haven't replied. Both have 2 kids.
One is disgusting. Two is gross.

Look, the deal breaker is when I hear ex bf.if she has kids, that man must be in the picture by default. If she keeps the children away,she's a monster.

I sound like a broken record. Top form SMV is not Single moms or cratered SMV. Its not pushing 30. Its not baby rabies because Chad's stop calling.


I think logic is kicking in. Men acknowledge this proud single moms rubbish is insanity.
 

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because women having kids is completely natural and beta males fight over their vaginas for their own interests/offspring

men will disown women because they can't marry them, shack them up, label them as their property, and live off in fairy land until death do them part.

to hammer this point harder look up how the average life span of orphanage bastard babies was only around 2 years old in europe because baby's had no place in society except in proper monogamous "moralistic" marriages.. while the wives still wanted to get fvxked constantly the little twerp husbands shackled them in chains.

everytime I hear a guy ***** about kids, I just hear "but I can't lock her down in forever ltr and make her ***** and offspring mine );"
 

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Way too much drama. Plus, every time I tried, eventually they wanted to intro to their kids. I then say no, and then it's just a turd storm. Damn sucks too. She was one of the younger and more attractive ones.
I've banged plenty of single Moms and never had any drama other than the occasional vent about something their ex husband didnt do related to the kids. If your goal is to get laid You are taking a lot of easy pickings ofd the table.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Just talked to an OLD dude last night.

His profile said "divorced, no kids". When I asked "why no kids?" His response was

"I actually have 2 kids with my ex wife and one on the way with my ex girlfriend, due at the end of July. I like to keep my family situation private, which is why I dont post that infirmation"

Yes, it's decietful to indicate otherwise in a profile and I FULLY believe it is a red flag in regards to their personality. When we consider the idea of having " personal standards" there are no situations where it is acceptable to not be truthful.

I also agree that he knows his SMV has cratered and doesn't want to scare off potential dates and this is why he lies.

I dont mind sometime with kids but I don't do liars and, personally, I don't want ex GF new baby mamma drama. I respectfully passed when he suggested we get a drink.

Go with your gut.
 
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Women's sexual market value (SMV) plummets with age and children. Stretched out vag, likely needs to do her vag exercises but doesn't, and they're accumulation of massive amount of government resources (ie tax dollars).

Single moms:

  1. Picked the wrong man or
  2. Chased the man away
Take your pick. Its not a good fit. Raising Chad's baby is regarded.
Your projection is amazingly clear. I always wonder if you realize that or if you are living utter denial.....

Based on how bitter you are, I'm going with denial. Enjoy!
 

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Many of the single moms I know wanted kids they get involved with a guy that's "good enough" and the guy wasn't or they get involved with some loser that eventually leaves. Would I get involved with a single mom? nope too much drama and BS. These women are getting 1000-1400 month in child support if they have two kids that if the father of the kids is paying. I had a single mom wanted to be in a relationship with me ya no thanks she venomously hated her ex husband its an ugly mess.
 

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I would say it depends on the age of the women. I often see very pretty women in their late 30s and early 40s who've never been married or have had kids and it makes me question why...it's a red flag to me and based on my last 2 failed relationships with such women the red flags are very valid.

I've only dated women without kids but I'm now looking to actually date those with kids (albeit older, since mine's older too) because as a dad myself I find it difficult to relate to those who haven't had to raise kids yet. So while they initially come across as being cool with me having a kid, they pretty quickly turn sour when they find out they have to share my time with my kid and on top of that they'll try to not only offer unsolicited advice on raising kids but also take offense if you don't agree with their point of view.

As always...different strokes for different folks.
 
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