spesmilitis
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I never felt any discomfort with them, but they seem to be a taboo exercise. Anyone know the science behind why they are so bad?
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why are upright rows so bad?
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They aren't?
Who told you upright rows were bad? They're like one of the main exercises, along with squats, deads and bench.
But if you've got a VERY BAD back, then maybe it puts stress on them. Otherwise, rows are really excellent for upper body strength.
Who told you upright rows were bad? They're like one of the main exercises, along with squats, deads and bench.
But if you've got a VERY BAD back, then maybe it puts stress on them. Otherwise, rows are really excellent for upper body strength.
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Soapz, I think that you are speaking of bent-over rows.
I've always heard that upright rows are bad for you as well. I think I heard it was bad on your shoulders. Something about the shoulder rotation. If I were you I would just stick with military press and side laterals.
I've always heard that upright rows are bad for you as well. I think I heard it was bad on your shoulders. Something about the shoulder rotation. If I were you I would just stick with military press and side laterals.
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Epileptic lifter sydnrome is a sad sad disease lol
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Depends on what they're lifting for. Even done in that jerky fashion, done correctly, they're called hang pulls, and develop explosive strength with your legs, lower back, and shoulders. However, they're usually done by Olympic lifters, and not of much use to people who just wanna get "buff."Skilla_Staz said:
Nah, upright rows are fine. However, you need to add some rotator cuff work in if you're gonna do them.
Over time they can damage your rotator cuffs. Some people with lucky genetics may never experience this, but I know a few people off the top of my head who don't do them anymore because of shoulder pain. There are plenty of other shoulder exercises to do that aren't damaging like that.
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whoa, WHOA, WHOAmrRuckus said:
How does bench press damage the shoulders?
I rotate between db and bb flat press every 2-3 monthes, is that alright, or should I kick out the bb bp out of my routine pernamently?
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I've never heard of this. I've seen people more knowledgeable than me advocate droppingspesmilitis said:
- upright rows,
- behind the neck shoulder press, and
- behind the neck lat pulldowns
but I've not seen evidence that bb bench can damage the rotator cuffs, only that your rotator cuffs may hold back benchpressing (I suspect this may be happening to people who need to spend less time on the bench anyhow). I'd be happy to be corrected on any of the above.
Hey, I settled on the upright rows a month ago.
But I just noticed you guys are saying it's dangerous . . .
I already had to quit lateral raises, since I can feel my shoulder joints give a mildly painful little 'pop' each time I do it. And as for the front raises,
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/DBFrontRaise.html
the pain was UNREAL when I tried it.
Problem is, the trapezius is made pretty sore by deadlifts (don't want to quit those), so military-style presses might be overtraining.
I feel like the one-hand-at-a-time dumbell version is a "safe" version, but could I be wrong?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBOneArmUprightRow.html
But I just noticed you guys are saying it's dangerous . . .
I already had to quit lateral raises, since I can feel my shoulder joints give a mildly painful little 'pop' each time I do it. And as for the front raises,
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/DBFrontRaise.html
the pain was UNREAL when I tried it.
Problem is, the trapezius is made pretty sore by deadlifts (don't want to quit those), so military-style presses might be overtraining.
I feel like the one-hand-at-a-time dumbell version is a "safe" version, but could I be wrong?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBOneArmUprightRow.html
Flat barbell bench:
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1364161
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1364161
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mrRuckus said:
That is honestly terrifying. I don't believe that BB bench is bad for you if done properly. I would not be surprised if this happened because he had his elbows flared out too far from his body. I usually keep my elbows about 45-50 degrees from my sides to protect my rotator cuff. Even though it involves my triceps more I still work my pecs and avoid any injuries.
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