"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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why are upright rows so bad?

spesmilitis

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I never felt any discomfort with them, but they seem to be a taboo exercise. Anyone know the science behind why they are so bad?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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They aren't?

Who told you upright rows were bad? They're like one of the main exercises, along with squats, deads and bench.

But if you've got a VERY BAD back, then maybe it puts stress on them. Otherwise, rows are really excellent for upper body strength.
 

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Soapz, I think that you are speaking of bent-over rows.

I've always heard that upright rows are bad for you as well. I think I heard it was bad on your shoulders. Something about the shoulder rotation. If I were you I would just stick with military press and side laterals.
 

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^^ woops, yeah, I was. Thx for pointing that out! ;)
 

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progressive rotator cuff damage. also a risk with behind the neck versions of lat pulldowns and seated shoulder press. google it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Epileptic lifter sydnrome is a sad sad disease lol
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
Epileptic lifter sydnrome is a sad sad disease lol
Depends on what they're lifting for. Even done in that jerky fashion, done correctly, they're called hang pulls, and develop explosive strength with your legs, lower back, and shoulders. However, they're usually done by Olympic lifters, and not of much use to people who just wanna get "buff."

Nah, upright rows are fine. However, you need to add some rotator cuff work in if you're gonna do them.
 

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Over time they can damage your rotator cuffs. Some people with lucky genetics may never experience this, but I know a few people off the top of my head who don't do them anymore because of shoulder pain. There are plenty of other shoulder exercises to do that aren't damaging like that.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Barbell BP is the same way.
whoa, WHOA, WHOA

How does bench press damage the shoulders?

I rotate between db and bb flat press every 2-3 monthes, is that alright, or should I kick out the bb bp out of my routine pernamently?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I did upright rows to develop my traps over the course of 6 or 7 months and it worked, I got results. I haven't done upright rows for 2 years since then, I work on my delts now.
 

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spesmilitis said:
whoa, WHOA, WHOA

How does bench press damage the shoulders?

I rotate between db and bb flat press every 2-3 monthes, is that alright, or should I kick out the bb bp out of my routine pernamently?
I've never heard of this. I've seen people more knowledgeable than me advocate dropping

- upright rows,
- behind the neck shoulder press, and
- behind the neck lat pulldowns

but I've not seen evidence that bb bench can damage the rotator cuffs, only that your rotator cuffs may hold back benchpressing (I suspect this may be happening to people who need to spend less time on the bench anyhow). I'd be happy to be corrected on any of the above.
 

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Hey, I settled on the upright rows a month ago.

But I just noticed you guys are saying it's dangerous . . .

I already had to quit lateral raises, since I can feel my shoulder joints give a mildly painful little 'pop' each time I do it. And as for the front raises,
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/DBFrontRaise.html
the pain was UNREAL when I tried it.

Problem is, the trapezius is made pretty sore by deadlifts (don't want to quit those), so military-style presses might be overtraining.

I feel like the one-hand-at-a-time dumbell version is a "safe" version, but could I be wrong?

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBOneArmUprightRow.html
 

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mrRuckus said:

That is honestly terrifying. I don't believe that BB bench is bad for you if done properly. I would not be surprised if this happened because he had his elbows flared out too far from his body. I usually keep my elbows about 45-50 degrees from my sides to protect my rotator cuff. Even though it involves my triceps more I still work my pecs and avoid any injuries.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Anything can be bad for you if it's not done right. With weight lifting consistency is in your happiness,if you aren't happy with a workout CHANGE IT!DUH! There are always other ways of doing a exercise,find it & use it if you think upright rows will hurt you.
 

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Yep rotator cuff is damaged a bit.
 
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