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Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

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Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.
 

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Hookers can't fulfill you manly desire for accomplishing, conquering, overcoming obstacles. What's the honor or pride for ****ing a escort? It's the same as comparing someone who was born in a rich family, and another guy that was a homeless ass and became a millionaire. The value of the man comes from his accomplishments - which means how many walls he can breaks, how many goals he reached, how much he did for himself.

***** has no value. It's totally up to how much you want it and how far you're willing to go to get it. Not every man has the preparation and the will to keep on the hard path to get the best (and that's what most people get wrong, it's not about doing more for her to like you, but about doing more for YOURSELF so you'll become even more magnetic and people will naturally come to you).

Success always depend on previous preparation. If men become manly enough to focus on their way and give their gift to their world and their women, when they know how to act masculine to keep her in her feminine (because women adapt to their men, not the other way around), when they know their value and base their life on fulfilling his own goals, but not forgetting to be his woman's stronghold at the same time, always centered, someone she and and anyone else can trust.

This would be an ideal world, but sadly what we see is men acting most time weak (not only because of them, but because they've been taught to act this way), women stepping over them, using sex as a currency to get what she wants, as a reward for his "good boy" behaviour. The weak behaviour of men gives space for women to get a bitchy behaviour.

If you're a man of valor, she'll naturally want to be yours, and you'll naturally want to penetrate her (if you feel the same for her). Sex is not a currency.
 

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I’m not. I go to an Asian massage parlors with happy endings and have paid for blow jobs a couple times. I wouldn’t penetrate a sex worker ..

I have no shame about it. It cost me the same as a date, yet saved me huge amounts of time.
 

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I wouldn‘t pay for something that comes natural. Also I want to feel some desire from a woman, otherwise I don‘t get hard.
Last time I paid a hooker I was 21. That was 12 years ago and never a fullfilling experience.

I think you‘re more perceived as a loser than anything else, if you have to pay for sex.

Rub one off and enjoy your post nut clarity
 

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I think you‘re more perceived as a loser than anything else, if you have to pay for sex.
Charlie Sheen, Hugh Grant, Tiger Woods, Eliot Spitzer, Jerry Springer, Eddie Murphy, etc etc used high end escorts.

Granted some of these guys are in the top1% of the 1%.

I feel its stigmatised when a male whom a woman knows is somewhat attainable does it because she realises he now doesnt need her and wont provide for her.
Rich chads can do as they please because she knows they wont ever commit to her.
 

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There is nothing wrong with paying for sex Dan bilzerian gets it I get it he says him self that he understands why guys pay for it , I understand like in China why guys that are married can bang young hot women and just pay for it who cares , what’s the difference in banging a hot women from tinder she’s a hooker that doesn’t get paid lol
 

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Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.
Yeah, it takes away female power over men. There's definitely a connection. It's harder to manipulate men if they're not kept thirsty.
 

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I wouldn‘t pay for something that comes natural. Also I want to feel some desire from a woman, otherwise I don‘t get hard.
Last time I paid a hooker I was 21. That was 12 years ago and never a fullfilling experience.

I think you‘re more perceived as a loser than anything else, if you have to pay for sex.

Rub one off and enjoy your post nut clarity
You pay for it anyway. Dates cost money, gas to her cost money, the time you spent with her believe it or not cost you money, could’ve spent that time doing gig work or overtime at work.

And after all, if your like most men you did all this for sex anyway.. why not cut the games and get straight to the point?
 

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I wouldn‘t pay for something that comes natural.
Its natural, but it does not come naturally for men.

The unnaturalness is the reason why Sosuave exists.

Also I want to feel some desire from a woman, otherwise I don‘t get hard.
You’ve never looked at a playboy or watched an adult entertainment video? Those woman don’t desire the men that are looking but they still turn them on.

Last time I paid a hooker I was 21. That was 12 years ago and never a fullfilling experience.
Never paid for it directly, but if the girl was 19 and hot I think I would go for it.


I think you‘re more perceived as a loser than anything else, if you have to pay for sex.
As opposed to taking a woman on several dates and then having her reluctantly agree to give sex while her looks and attitude are crashing and burning?

If the man pays for it all the time, then yes, there is a problem,
 

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What about women going on seeking arrangements or other sugar dating sites. That is literally the same thing expect they can claim its different because there is an "emotional connection" too. Women sugar dating are empowered but guys are creepy.

You pay for it anyway. Dates cost money, gas to her cost money, the time you spent with her believe it or not cost you money, could’ve spent that time doing gig work or overtime at work.
The free ones tend to be more expensive

Yeah, it takes away female power over men. There's definitely a connection. It's harder to manipulate men if they're not kept thirsty.
Precisely. Im going to try this on a new plate. Tell her of wild times in amsterdam for under 100 euro.
 

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We're living in the year 2021 where everything is monetized and everything is transactional..... if you're a man that's still worried about the stigma of banging h00kers then I'd say you're stuck in that 2012 mindset, mayne......
 

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Kevin Samuels said in one of his videos he got a promotion from taking a very high end escort to a company function. Turns out the CEO was a regular client, thus was quite impressed by the move.
 

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Hookers can't fulfill you manly desire for accomplishing, conquering, overcoming obstacles. What's the honor or pride for ****ing a escort? It's the same as comparing someone who was born in a rich family, and another guy that was a homeless ass and became a millionaire. The value of the man comes from his accomplishments - which means how many walls he can breaks, how many goals he reached, how much he did for himself.

***** has no value. It's totally up to how much you want it and how far you're willing to go to get it. Not every man has the preparation and the will to keep on the hard path to get the best (and that's what most people get wrong, it's not about doing more for her to like you, but about doing more for YOURSELF so you'll become even more magnetic and people will naturally come to you).

Success always depend on previous preparation. If men become manly enough to focus on their way and give their gift to their world and their women, when they know how to act masculine to keep her in her feminine (because women adapt to their men, not the other way around), when they know their value and base their life on fulfilling his own goals, but not forgetting to be his woman's stronghold at the same time, always centered, someone she and and anyone else can trust.

This would be an ideal world, but sadly what we see is men acting most time weak (not only because of them, but because they've been taught to act this way), women stepping over them, using sex as a currency to get what she wants, as a reward for his "good boy" behaviour. The weak behaviour of men gives space for women to get a bitchy behaviour.

If you're a man of valor, she'll naturally want to be yours, and you'll naturally want to penetrate her (if you feel the same for her). Sex is not a currency.
That may be all well & good, but the combination of the female touch and ejaculation satisfies the deep lizard brain; everything else is just social gingerbread.
 

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If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.
You answered your own question. Women mitigate dread and other power deficits by shaming men. Get society to jump on board (white knights) and you've got a man cornered.

Personally I think this stuff should be legal and normalized (sans trafficking/pimping). It can't replace regular courtship (pickup, whatever) but if people weren't so immature about sex, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

BTW, side note. I met a girl (friend of friends) last year, who I later found out had a sugar daddy when she was 15 and he was around 60. She's in her late 20s now and engaged to a different guy. No idea if the guy knows that bit of trivia about her.
 

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As sex, for a lot of women, is just another lever to control men, naturaly they go nuts when men get sexually "independent" through whatever means.

Paying for sex is like paying for a massage or a psycho therapist. You pay someone to relief you. Nothing wrong with that.

With some of the women, dating feels like paying for sex anyway.
 

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paid for it in thailand during my early twenties, was useful as brought me out of my shell with women. plus in thailand its a bit more of a g/f experience, rather than pay for 1 hour.

had a couple of escorts after divorce was drunk, but didn't enjoy it all. sex with no connection, plus paying made it feel completely hollow and almost worthless to me. fair enough if people get more out of it. would just prefer a w**k tbh.

problem in UK is most escorts look like druggies, or rough looking porn stars or scraggly romanian women...even higher priced ones, so coupled with fact you know they've slept with loads of other men, really isn't a turn on for me. may be different if more normal/every day looking ones were available.
 
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What about women going on seeking arrangements or other sugar dating sites. That is literally the same thing expect they can claim its different because there is an "emotional connection" too. Women sugar dating are empowered but guys are creepy.


The free ones tend to be more expensive


Precisely. Im going to try this on a new plate. Tell her of wild times in amsterdam for under 100 euro.
The only difference is the price. Women have no objection to prostitution as long as the price is high enough. If the price is low, they know that it devalues their product.
 
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