"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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key words: bisphenol A

oh, and I'm all for idiots removing themselves from the gene pool. It's natural selection lmao it'll make our species stronger and smarter in the future hahahah
That's fine unless you have a genetic flaw like being Sub6 - then you're pissed! :mad: :mad:
 

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Whatever happened to him?
He started a revival a few years ago, but then he stopped. Every once in a while. he is a special guest of one of his disciples like Incelmatics. I think he is driving a truck for a living. He is ethnic Ukrainian and was in the US Army in his youth, so who knows? He might UkraineForeignLegionMaxxing now. :)
 

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Most mgtows are simply like "I'm not getting the best cut of the meat therefore I aint paying sh1t for leftovers", it's really that simple even before the law and the marriage thing.

I personally live a very soft mgtow form where I go on with my life and as long as I find women on my route and they do not require any deviation I enjoy their company and intimacy...willing to drop them in zero time the same moment they become even a minor ado.

Also women my age are creepy (yeah women can be creepy too) and very often ugly to see when you undress them.

As long as my body will allow this low commitment attitude with acceptable results, I'll stick to it.
The ironic thing is that in meat, a lot of marbled fat is desired - whereas for chicks, it's not. :rofl:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So you are saying that men should JesterMax? :rolleyes:

Written in 2014. Probably had been a developing trend since at least the 2000s.

Uh, no, unless you want to FatChickMax or StepDaddyMax. I suppose you could also PayOffBrideStudentDebtMax.
There are plenty of men having sex with overweight women or single moms. No sex vs. those options is an interesting debate and I think most men would end up choosing the option with sex.
 

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Written in 2014. Probably had been a developing trend since at least the 2000s.



There are plenty of men having sex with overweight women or single moms. No sex vs. those options is an interesting debate and I think most men would end up choosing the option with sex.
I wouldn't mind sexxing decent looking single mommies - but MarriageMaxxing?

NO

And I'd rather fap to hotties than put my manhood inside a fatty. I'm sorry, some men can do it - I can't. The very few times I've had a fatty, I felt awful for quite some time.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Truth be told, I just don't care anymore. Why the hell should I use up my time doing this and that just to invite
another soulless harpie into my life, home or car?
I won't catch an STD from my right hand nor do I have to whisper sweet nothings to it or think of witty things
to say to it or take it on 'fun' and 'exciting' dates. I put up with nearly 20 years of someone trying to change me
into someone I'm not. When your own wife tells you from her own experience of being married to you "You
don't like women and you don't like sex..."
which is largely a true statement then really, what's the point??
I dare say some women are attracted to me but I'd sooner just be by myself now. In the same way as
I quite like dessert after a meal but rarely have any as I don't wish to eat unnecessary calories, regardless
of how sweet it may taste or how much I'd enjoy eating it.
Although it's been far too rare for me, having my uncondommed manhood inside a tight piece of poontang that is decent looking is the hope that keeps me going.
 

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Most MGTOWs are from the female reject bin. Females are discarding what seems like a larger percentages of males now based on the increases in the male sexlessness rates.
This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
 

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
 

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
Mouse Utopia ...
 

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That's fine unless you have a genetic flaw like being Sub6 - then you're pissed! :mad: :mad:
I don't have the slightest idea of what being sub6 is but no, that's not fine for absolutely any human, male or female, young or old, doesn't matter the ethnicity.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
For the past few years I have found a lot of good food for thought in a book called I Ching.

One of its ideas is that family is the foundation of society, and when a father is a father and a mother is a mother and a son is a son and a daughter... When the family is in order, the country is in order.

If you culturally mess up the families you mess up the whole thing.
 

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Hmmm. Given the likelihood of the alleged 'prize' being an absolutely shocking human being I think I'd rather
learn to juggle chainsaws with a blindfold on. Less chance of having your guts ripped out.
You are the prize, mate. You. Women are the ones built for seduction and attraction, not you.
 

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I don't have the slightest idea of what being sub6 is but no, that's not fine for absolutely any human, male or female, young or old, doesn't matter the ethnicity.
Surely you have heard of the "10 scale". :rolleyes: Well, men get rated on that as well. Sub6 means "less than 6" :( - and it is a nasty & brutish place to be.
 

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You are the prize, mate. You. Women are the ones built for seduction and attraction, not you.
There meme of "you are the prize" is extraordinary CopeMaxxing. :rolleyes:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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