"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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key words: bisphenol A

oh, and I'm all for idiots removing themselves from the gene pool. It's natural selection lmao it'll make our species stronger and smarter in the future hahahah
That's fine unless you have a genetic flaw like being Sub6 - then you're pissed! :mad: :mad:
 

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Whatever happened to him?
He started a revival a few years ago, but then he stopped. Every once in a while. he is a special guest of one of his disciples like Incelmatics. I think he is driving a truck for a living. He is ethnic Ukrainian and was in the US Army in his youth, so who knows? He might UkraineForeignLegionMaxxing now. :)
 

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Most mgtows are simply like "I'm not getting the best cut of the meat therefore I aint paying sh1t for leftovers", it's really that simple even before the law and the marriage thing.

I personally live a very soft mgtow form where I go on with my life and as long as I find women on my route and they do not require any deviation I enjoy their company and intimacy...willing to drop them in zero time the same moment they become even a minor ado.

Also women my age are creepy (yeah women can be creepy too) and very often ugly to see when you undress them.

As long as my body will allow this low commitment attitude with acceptable results, I'll stick to it.
The ironic thing is that in meat, a lot of marbled fat is desired - whereas for chicks, it's not. :rofl:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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So you are saying that men should JesterMax? :rolleyes:

Written in 2014. Probably had been a developing trend since at least the 2000s.

Uh, no, unless you want to FatChickMax or StepDaddyMax. I suppose you could also PayOffBrideStudentDebtMax.
There are plenty of men having sex with overweight women or single moms. No sex vs. those options is an interesting debate and I think most men would end up choosing the option with sex.
 

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Written in 2014. Probably had been a developing trend since at least the 2000s.



There are plenty of men having sex with overweight women or single moms. No sex vs. those options is an interesting debate and I think most men would end up choosing the option with sex.
I wouldn't mind sexxing decent looking single mommies - but MarriageMaxxing?

NO

And I'd rather fap to hotties than put my manhood inside a fatty. I'm sorry, some men can do it - I can't. The very few times I've had a fatty, I felt awful for quite some time.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Truth be told, I just don't care anymore. Why the hell should I use up my time doing this and that just to invite
another soulless harpie into my life, home or car?
I won't catch an STD from my right hand nor do I have to whisper sweet nothings to it or think of witty things
to say to it or take it on 'fun' and 'exciting' dates. I put up with nearly 20 years of someone trying to change me
into someone I'm not. When your own wife tells you from her own experience of being married to you "You
don't like women and you don't like sex..."
which is largely a true statement then really, what's the point??
I dare say some women are attracted to me but I'd sooner just be by myself now. In the same way as
I quite like dessert after a meal but rarely have any as I don't wish to eat unnecessary calories, regardless
of how sweet it may taste or how much I'd enjoy eating it.
Although it's been far too rare for me, having my uncondommed manhood inside a tight piece of poontang that is decent looking is the hope that keeps me going.
 

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Most MGTOWs are from the female reject bin. Females are discarding what seems like a larger percentages of males now based on the increases in the male sexlessness rates.
This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
 

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
 

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
Mouse Utopia ...
 

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That's fine unless you have a genetic flaw like being Sub6 - then you're pissed! :mad: :mad:
I don't have the slightest idea of what being sub6 is but no, that's not fine for absolutely any human, male or female, young or old, doesn't matter the ethnicity.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This thought seems obvious, but just occurred to me: As the world seems to be falling into greater chaos and seems to be spiraling out of control, the same is happening with human relationships - specifically male/female relationships. This is likely not a coincidence, the two must be related.
For the past few years I have found a lot of good food for thought in a book called I Ching.

One of its ideas is that family is the foundation of society, and when a father is a father and a mother is a mother and a son is a son and a daughter... When the family is in order, the country is in order.

If you culturally mess up the families you mess up the whole thing.
 

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Hmmm. Given the likelihood of the alleged 'prize' being an absolutely shocking human being I think I'd rather
learn to juggle chainsaws with a blindfold on. Less chance of having your guts ripped out.
You are the prize, mate. You. Women are the ones built for seduction and attraction, not you.
 

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I don't have the slightest idea of what being sub6 is but no, that's not fine for absolutely any human, male or female, young or old, doesn't matter the ethnicity.
Surely you have heard of the "10 scale". :rolleyes: Well, men get rated on that as well. Sub6 means "less than 6" :( - and it is a nasty & brutish place to be.
 

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You are the prize, mate. You. Women are the ones built for seduction and attraction, not you.
There meme of "you are the prize" is extraordinary CopeMaxxing. :rolleyes:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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