You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Yeah, the 40 year old is damaged goods, no argument here, but it's more physical (possibly beat up *****, 2 kids running around) whereas the stripper is emotionally/mentally damaged goods. To me, mental pain is worse than physical pain. I doubt the 40 year old would play mind games to the level the stripper would. Strippers are no good for your mental health.bigneil said:I seem to be losing the debate.
But MisterD I didn't say wholesome I said MORE wholesome.
No 40 year old divorced mother of 2 is wholesome either.
Everyone has there vices.MM92 said:What is your obsession with strippers?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:TonyBaloney said:I now add myself to the choir of voices that think Neil has psych problems.
The whole thread of late about breaking NC with the stripper was just nuts, now you have absolutely confirmed in my mind that your suffering in the mind. Poor you. I would suggest a visit to a good shrink, Neil! This is one hell of a big hole your in, aint it?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Exactly! I always knew the stripper was a stripper and (let's face it) sells sex for a living.Mike32ct said:We dont really know the whole story. Did the 40 yo ride the carusel for many years? Did she cheat and then divorce and take some guy to the cleaners? Or was he really an a$shole, and she rightly divorced him?
:nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:bigneil said:Exactly! I always knew the stripper was a stripper and (let's face it) sells sex for a living.
What did the non-strippers have for issues?
1) HB7, 47, Had 2 kids (smoking hot 18-19 year olds), secretly about to go bankrupt in her business and lose her Visa.
2) HB8, 36, Not sure if she could get pregnant, then got pregnant within months of our breakup.
3) HB8, 38, Had 1 kid, Told me she had Herpes right when we were about to have sex.
4) HB7, 42, Had 2 kids, had just divorced Microsoft Millionaire, and was ruthless toward him in front of me.
5) HB9, 40, Had 1 year old twins but had just been divorced and worked for Big Pharma.
6) HB7, 29, Had rage issues and would storm off at the bat of an eye and worked for Military Industrial Complex.
7) HB8, 25, Was an alcoholic and unemployed.
None of them were strippers. I like the stripper better than most of them.
It is man, we're both 23, none of us wants a clapped out 40 year old with a vagina as loose as KFC bucket and we don't want a 20 year old stripper who is clearly deranged and was probably abused as a child.San Jose California said:^Yeah for real. I'm not even gonna vote that's such a dumb poll.
LolSolomon said:keep trying to justify to yourself that just because your dating a "hot stripper" that she is quality because of hot she is or "wholesome" because she has no std's yet she is sliding up and down a pole smutting herself for dollars
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.