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Which muscles turn girls on the most?

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I am trying to get an idea of what muscles matter in terms of girls, so I can prioritise my training.

In your experience guys, which muscles seem to get girls going the most? I have noticed that women seem to give a bit of attention to my pecs.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Why not just build everything up? I don't think you should lift JUST for girls. Besides, if you have an overall solid physique, you'll look better naked. Wouldn't you rather look better naked?


But, women love:

Pecs
Abs
Arms
Back
Butt (Glutes)
 

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Thanks Skilla_Staz - I can see that focussing on everything is a good idea.

One other thing: can someone tell me why this post doesn't appear in the "health and fitness forum" even though I posted it there?

It doesn't matter for this post because you gave me a good answer to my question, but I would like to know for the future?
 

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It shows up in the H&F forum for me...
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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search for some threads here by A-Unit like "Squatting for Big Arms" etc...

A balanced program of lifting (emphasizing big compound lifts like bench, squats and deadlifts), diet (emphasizing lean sources of protein, fibrous sources of carbs, and a balance of different fats), and rest (7-9 hours of sleep and avoiding overtraining in its many forms) will give you a solid base no matter what sort of body type you're starting from.

The best way to make the muscle groups Staz lists look good is to make everything bigger & strip away the adipose (body fat). You can have all the abs & butt in the world but they won't show through if covered in adipose. You'll have to figure out your own goals, but the muscles women love need proper nutrition and probably some cardio to shine through.

Nonetheless, it's not all-or-nothing: my experience is that it's hard to have too much muscle, and lowering your bodyfat by more than a percentage point or two gets ladies' attention.
 

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curls for the girls
 

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Collector said:
I am trying to get an idea of what muscles matter in terms of girls, so I can prioritise my training.
Prioritise your training for who? Women? If that's the reason why you're training, you're training for the wrong reaons.
 

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It really depends on the girl, but many go for a lean, well-defined appearance.

Don't focus too much on prioritizing your training though. Just focus on the bigger muscle groups and you'll be fine.
 

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the most important muscles are the ones that you show when you smile. girls dig a smiling guy, it shows he is a happy guy. then they notice the rest of your body.
 

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Like salvatore said, train for yourself not for girls and Read, Read, READ!!!!
 

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donjuanjovi said:
Like salvatore said, train for yourself not for girls and Read, Read, READ!!!!
fair enough, but I need motivation wherever I can find it, and I suspect others would agree. I don't think the two motivations are mutually exclusive. Lingering looks from leering ladies are on my list of reasons I train for myself.
 

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Throttle said:
fair enough, but I need motivation wherever I can find it, and I suspect others would agree. I don't think the two motivations are mutually exclusive. Lingering looks from leering ladies are on my list of reasons I train for myself.
Alright, it's not an easy answer though. Girls like different things, some like a strong thick chest, some like 6 pack abs, others like a wide powerful back, I'm sure some even like tree truck legs, so I would say your best bet would be to get BIG all over. Find a good routine that you can stick to, and go lift. Don't get discouraged if you don't see results right away, these things take time.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Shoulders and the back width are everything, they give the impression of a 'macho' guy more than anything, with you having a seemingly large presence.
 

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Girls love physical body parts of which is not seen by the majority: ie. Biceps/Triceps are not as impressive as Chest muscle/6-pack Abs/Back muscles/Thigh muscles/Calf muscles.

While large arms is a sign of strength, it is not a sign of healthiness, but the latter mentioned is a sign of healthiness and that's what's most attractive.
 

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I know I've already posted, but generally speaking, the "beach muscles" are the most sought after. You know, the upper body. Rarely do girls look at legs or such when you have clothes on. Like I've said before, you want to look good naked. I'm sure it's no fun getting laughed at when you have a 45inch chest, 17 inch biceps and 22 inch thighs.
 

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but most importantly from alll of u guys giving body parts that you think girls like...the number one thing they look for in those parts is...


definition, they --in my oppinion-- like to see your: lats, chest, arms, abs..etc defined and cut...not just big and bulgy.

Thats why its good to be lean and big...being lean allows the appearance of ur muscles to pop out for attention and big shows strength and effort and masculinity.

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Correct. Don't confuse "lean" with "shredded" though. Lean is about, IMO, 9-10% BF

Shredded is around 6-7%

Just plain sick is BBer competition levels...4%ish
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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