"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Where else can I escalate besides my bed?

Vice

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I've grown accustomed to having a first kiss on my bed... it's happened like twice now. I know it's not that much, but it's really the only place where I feel comfortable and confident enough.

Now, obviously that's a problem because when I'm out and there's a good opportunity, I won't have my bed.

Can some of you guys share your experiences with your first kisses happening in other places? I'll often find myself in an isolated spot (usually sitting down on a bench near water) with a girl but never go for it even though there wouldn't be a problem. I've just never really done it in that position and I just don't know what to expect.

And my apologies if I'm not making much sense... I've had a stressful day (eBay buyer complaints... yech)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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fourblueballs

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You don't really NEED isolation. I've done it in public.. in department stores. Just go into an isle where there is no one else. Around a corner.

If you are by your car.. lean back on your car... or standing next to hers...

Go for it
 

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Follow your bliss
MoveYourAss... said:
Just do it.
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MoveYourA$$... and your brain will follow
You cant get better advice than this

Kissing is a great way to calibrate haha!
 

sodbuster

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I've had SEX on the kitchen counter,dining room table,dentalchair etc. Had a BJ driving 70 down the highway. I know guys who had it on the sidewalk outside a ski lodge or on a picknic table out in the back yard. And you are worried about kissing her? Nobody cares if you get caught kissing. If she's ok with a kiss in the bedroom,she'll probably be OK with a kiss anywhere that doesn't involve her parents. JUST DO IT!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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fourblueballs

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sodbuster said:
I've had SEX on the kitchen counter,dining room table,dentalchair etc. Had a BJ driving 70 down the highway. I know guys who had it on the sidewalk outside a ski lodge or on a picknic table out in the back yard. And you are worried about kissing her? Nobody cares if you get caught kissing. If she's ok with a kiss in the bedroom,she'll probably be OK with a kiss anywhere that doesn't involve her parents. JUST DO IT!

I can top that... on a basketball court.. right in the middle of the court!

We should start a thread somewhere.. with the craziest places people have done it.

I'd have to rethink.. back a bit.. I do believe.. the basketball court.. tops the list.. or spooning in my pick up bed at the drive ins w/ ppl walking by.

Or on a play ground in day light! lol I'm going to hell. lol

okay.. I'll start the thread! Everyone hop over.. and reply
 

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vice said:
Where else can I escalate besides my bed?
The elevator?

But seriously, you seem a bit experienced so isolation would be the way to go (less external factors.) Once you get comfortable enough, you'll be breaking local public decency laws in no time.

I once had sex in the back seat of a car while my older brother was driving us to a party.
 
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