"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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when you are not in school , where you guys have met your gf or wife ?

evan12

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I know most of us found a good relationships in school and university , but I want to know after that how did you met your gf or wife , put a side the unserious women who have met them at the bar or club .
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Of the significant 6 relationships (2 wives, 1 live in, 3 girlfriends) I've had in life ...

1) School
2) Friends
3) Work
4) Friends
5) Internet
6) Friends / Work

If you have friends that are social and outgoing, especially ones that are invited to house parties etc, then that is a good avenue, but only if you seek a girlfriend.

SH
 

Aristippus

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I met my fiancee at a party/social gathering..... A friend of mine met his current wife online. Another friend met his through friends. An old roommate of mine met his wife at a bar or club. Where I used to work, 2 of the people there started dating seriously, although I don't recommend workplace romances.

Another possibility, if you're wondering where to meet women, is to join a group related to an interest you have or to go places related to interests you have. You'll share an interest in common if you meet women there or if there are no women in the group and there are any guys in the group that you'd like to hang out with, do that. You can make new friends and there's also a possibility that at some point in the future they will introduce you to other people in their social circle.

You can also do the same with the women in the club/group that is related to your interests. Instead of dating within the group, you can make female friends and then become a part of her social circle, which might actually lead to you meeting more women. Doing that might serve you better and you'll avoid introducing drama into a fun group of people that share an interest or hobby.
 

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The truth is I met my wife at a club. First it was at a friend's band's gig, then at a club. Guys seem to think the only place to meet "Quality Women" is in some magical bookstore or at Bible study.

We've been married for almost 17 years and have a 14 year old daughter, so I'm not sure your assumptions of club girls being unserious really holds much water.

It's not the venue where you meet, it's your ability to discern her sincerity, motives and methods.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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evan12

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So I think cold approach does not work in finding LTR material . I was thinking women assume men who did cold approach are mainly players , this is one of my main options(if not the only one ) in meeting women
 
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