"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
when you are not in school , where you guys have met your gf or wife ?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
bluenorther
Senior Don Juan
I work at the riding stables, shoeing horses, all my clients are women.
SecondHalf
Master Don Juan
1) School
2) Friends
3) Work
4) Friends
5) Internet
6) Friends / Work
If you have friends that are social and outgoing, especially ones that are invited to house parties etc, then that is a good avenue, but only if you seek a girlfriend.
SH
Aristippus
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Another possibility, if you're wondering where to meet women, is to join a group related to an interest you have or to go places related to interests you have. You'll share an interest in common if you meet women there or if there are no women in the group and there are any guys in the group that you'd like to hang out with, do that. You can make new friends and there's also a possibility that at some point in the future they will introduce you to other people in their social circle.
You can also do the same with the women in the club/group that is related to your interests. Instead of dating within the group, you can make female friends and then become a part of her social circle, which might actually lead to you meeting more women. Doing that might serve you better and you'll avoid introducing drama into a fun group of people that share an interest or hobby.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
We've been married for almost 17 years and have a 14 year old daughter, so I'm not sure your assumptions of club girls being unserious really holds much water.
It's not the venue where you meet, it's your ability to discern her sincerity, motives and methods.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.