"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
When was the first time you kissed a girl?
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Things came quickly after the 1st one...
kingsam
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probably 16 for make out.
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Fun Fact: when I was 15, I met her again and she recognized me (I didn't). She had become SMOKING HOT and I had become the wussy AFC, fantasizing about destiny and such. She gave me tons of chances but finally rejected me after a long time. I was heartbroken for years... WTF did puberty do to me
Anyway, fast-forward, and first real kiss with 18.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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TheEnergizer
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then in middle school society turns you into a total wuss, you start respecting peoples boundaries, behave properly, care about what people think of you, and a bunch of dumb **** like that. you start to become shy (unlike in elementary school, shy kids in elementary school are much more rare than in middle school) and you turn into a *****. then in high school you realize that youre doing something wrong and you try to go back to being interesting again, usually succesfully, but still, it takes some time out of your life.
remember in elementary school when you used to play tag and talk to all the girls without a problem? you could hug em and play with em and the only thing to be afraid of was cooties. maybe you start turning into a loser when you start liking girls, and start being afraid of doing something to drive them away, or something. or maybe its society telling you to behave yourself and respect peoples boundaries.
whatever it is, its bullsh*t. i spent the former part of the last 3-5 years having all these fears of girls. it took some drastic sh*t to undo some of those new fears when in elementary school girls were all over me, before i even starting liking them as more than buddies. now im fine.. but still, anyone else think that its bullsh*t?
haha yeah bro i know exactly what your saying.TheEnergizer said:
In elementary school i was hands down the most popular kid in the school. The teacher would be reading a book to the class and then i'd have to leave for like a dentist appointment or something and the teacher had to stop reading for like 5-10 minutes because everyone wanted to say bye to me etc. And I remember my 5th grade teacher sat me down privately after school once because she recognized i was the leader of the class, and she basically begged me to keep everyone else under control and to tell them to be quite because we were always being mistchieves.
Anyways, idk why i said all that, just having good memories haha.
But i completely understand what your saying because around the end of 7th grade and during 8th and 9th grade i lost it and became a complete fvck head. But this last year I did exactly what you said, i "fixed" it and have climbed right back up to the top
And yeah, it completely sucks because i lost so much of my life during 8th and 9th grade. But getting back to the top feels good
Yeah idk why i said that sh1t, i just saw an opportunity to ramble haha
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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yeah, i was pretty much awesome at the time lol. did i mention all the girls that always wanted to hang out with me? i got birthday invites from girls i hardly knew. i didnt see them as more than friends. everyone loved me. there wasnt a single soul that disliked me (although thats still true). if only i wouldve stayed that way.
but of course, no. middle school hit me like a ton of bricks and i took a horrifying plunge, like you said, turning into a complete dumbfvck. not just with girls, but everything. life became totally messed up. started getting mediocre grades, stopped playing sports, was limited to a 'group' of friends rather than knowing tons of people. complete screwup.
but also just like your story, few fixes and im fast on my way back to the top. i guess its just a temporary thing. i mean yeah, the whole 2-3 years lost thing sucks, but once i got back on track it all just naturally came back to me. i socialize easily, people think im smart again, amazed at how i can do things like start talking to a group of strangers or speak to the french teacher in french when she subs for our spanish class. hehe. that was fun. yeah, being at the top again does feel good.
its really all so easy now i dont know how i was such as idiot from 7th-9th grade. i guess it comes naturally to me, and i just went haywire during that time. oh well, im back now, and thats good because i still have 2 more years of hs and college
. i of course dont need this site anymore, but i still visit once in a while just to see what people talking about.anyways, that was my turn to reminisce lol. i guess this whole up down up thing is a common occurrence among people in their school years. happens to the best of us i suppose. but at least once we get back on track were back to who we are
also interestingly, my names also alex.
kingsam
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BS your only 16TheEnergizer said:
i think all of us older guys will say you still have a lot to learn and experience
be carefull of your "im better than every one else" EGO, it will come back to bite you in the ass one day
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and i never said or insinuated i was better than everyone else... i just stated the facts. you dont have to believe me, what do i care, i dont even know you.
maybe it was when i stated i was 'at the top'? how bout i rephrase, 'on top', as in 'im back on top of things and got my life together again'. thats kinda what i meant. im not comparing myself to people. never do, and didnt intend to. i was really just comparing myself to myself, my main point being that i had a low point in middle school but worked my way back to my own standard. i dont worry about other peoples personal standards, and understand that everyone has low points, and skills in different areas. people arent equal or inequal. theyre just different, thats all, and one shouldnt compare one to another. i can compare myself though, which was what i was doing, from now to back when i was in middle school. and all i can say is im glad because im on better footing now than i was before. whoo.