"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
When was the first time you kissed a girl?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Bronco5150
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Things came quickly after the 1st one...
kingsam
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probably 16 for make out.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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Fun Fact: when I was 15, I met her again and she recognized me (I didn't). She had become SMOKING HOT and I had become the wussy AFC, fantasizing about destiny and such. She gave me tons of chances but finally rejected me after a long time. I was heartbroken for years... WTF did puberty do to me
Anyway, fast-forward, and first real kiss with 18.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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TheEnergizer
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then in middle school society turns you into a total wuss, you start respecting peoples boundaries, behave properly, care about what people think of you, and a bunch of dumb **** like that. you start to become shy (unlike in elementary school, shy kids in elementary school are much more rare than in middle school) and you turn into a *****. then in high school you realize that youre doing something wrong and you try to go back to being interesting again, usually succesfully, but still, it takes some time out of your life.
remember in elementary school when you used to play tag and talk to all the girls without a problem? you could hug em and play with em and the only thing to be afraid of was cooties. maybe you start turning into a loser when you start liking girls, and start being afraid of doing something to drive them away, or something. or maybe its society telling you to behave yourself and respect peoples boundaries.
whatever it is, its bullsh*t. i spent the former part of the last 3-5 years having all these fears of girls. it took some drastic sh*t to undo some of those new fears when in elementary school girls were all over me, before i even starting liking them as more than buddies. now im fine.. but still, anyone else think that its bullsh*t?
haha yeah bro i know exactly what your saying.TheEnergizer said:
In elementary school i was hands down the most popular kid in the school. The teacher would be reading a book to the class and then i'd have to leave for like a dentist appointment or something and the teacher had to stop reading for like 5-10 minutes because everyone wanted to say bye to me etc. And I remember my 5th grade teacher sat me down privately after school once because she recognized i was the leader of the class, and she basically begged me to keep everyone else under control and to tell them to be quite because we were always being mistchieves.
Anyways, idk why i said all that, just having good memories haha.
But i completely understand what your saying because around the end of 7th grade and during 8th and 9th grade i lost it and became a complete fvck head. But this last year I did exactly what you said, i "fixed" it and have climbed right back up to the top
And yeah, it completely sucks because i lost so much of my life during 8th and 9th grade. But getting back to the top feels good
Yeah idk why i said that sh1t, i just saw an opportunity to ramble haha
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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yeah, i was pretty much awesome at the time lol. did i mention all the girls that always wanted to hang out with me? i got birthday invites from girls i hardly knew. i didnt see them as more than friends. everyone loved me. there wasnt a single soul that disliked me (although thats still true). if only i wouldve stayed that way.
but of course, no. middle school hit me like a ton of bricks and i took a horrifying plunge, like you said, turning into a complete dumbfvck. not just with girls, but everything. life became totally messed up. started getting mediocre grades, stopped playing sports, was limited to a 'group' of friends rather than knowing tons of people. complete screwup.
but also just like your story, few fixes and im fast on my way back to the top. i guess its just a temporary thing. i mean yeah, the whole 2-3 years lost thing sucks, but once i got back on track it all just naturally came back to me. i socialize easily, people think im smart again, amazed at how i can do things like start talking to a group of strangers or speak to the french teacher in french when she subs for our spanish class. hehe. that was fun. yeah, being at the top again does feel good.
its really all so easy now i dont know how i was such as idiot from 7th-9th grade. i guess it comes naturally to me, and i just went haywire during that time. oh well, im back now, and thats good because i still have 2 more years of hs and college
. i of course dont need this site anymore, but i still visit once in a while just to see what people talking about.anyways, that was my turn to reminisce lol. i guess this whole up down up thing is a common occurrence among people in their school years. happens to the best of us i suppose. but at least once we get back on track were back to who we are
also interestingly, my names also alex.
kingsam
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BS your only 16TheEnergizer said:
i think all of us older guys will say you still have a lot to learn and experience
be carefull of your "im better than every one else" EGO, it will come back to bite you in the ass one day
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and i never said or insinuated i was better than everyone else... i just stated the facts. you dont have to believe me, what do i care, i dont even know you.
maybe it was when i stated i was 'at the top'? how bout i rephrase, 'on top', as in 'im back on top of things and got my life together again'. thats kinda what i meant. im not comparing myself to people. never do, and didnt intend to. i was really just comparing myself to myself, my main point being that i had a low point in middle school but worked my way back to my own standard. i dont worry about other peoples personal standards, and understand that everyone has low points, and skills in different areas. people arent equal or inequal. theyre just different, thats all, and one shouldnt compare one to another. i can compare myself though, which was what i was doing, from now to back when i was in middle school. and all i can say is im glad because im on better footing now than i was before. whoo.