"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I personally dont think her friends are going to pull her away from you unless they know for sure your a creepy guy. They will be more intrigued than anything. Send her a reply that you will be in the area at such and such time and for her to give you a call when her friends leave....simple
 

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True.... but its about confidence in yourself here. Yes I agree with you, just send her a message 1 hr to 45 min before your to meet but make sure the message isnt any AFC stuff...just bare minmum stuff and in a tone that says THIS is happening.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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you have to tone up the "Im not taking this bull****" attitude when she flakes, not the AFC attitude. Act like you couldn't care less if she flakes....TELL yourself this over and over till you believe it. That message is fine...If it was me I would leave out "i'll call you in an hour when im done." this takes the pressure off her to care(If shes being flaky). Put the ball in her court and let her chase you back for a reply.

stop worrying about ****ing it up think about how shes going to **** it up for herself.

send it an hour before.
 

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Whats wrong with that! your a "busy" man right? If you decide to call her its cause you want to not that you are obligated to...

what is the point in saying 'text me' when you then say 'il call you'....

you get me?

say
'hey got your facebook message. im in my meeting now, text me when we're meeting.'

leave her guessing.
 

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STOP right now.....

Stop "anticipating she's going to flake"

from the message from her she seems to be looking forward to it. so RELAX.

now if she said:
hey u how are you? well my friends coming today, and guess they will leave late afternoon. so "maybe" we could meet around 5 or 5.30. i "might" text you tomorrow ok?'

see the difference?

shes not going to think your trying to convince her unless you actually are.

call her as if your doing her a favour. If she asks for an extension of time dont let her know that your going to wait around. Tell her you have some stuff to do in the mall and if she wants to meet up then.then thats cool with you

Be a man here show her that you dont NEED her.

My main point is to try and have the situation where she is asking you the times not the other way around. your doing fine

BUT if she flakes dont get angry just say cool would've been fun.
If she askes to meet up on a diff day tell her cool but your busy at the moment and you might text/call her sometime soon.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pete, her telling you she'll need to confirm actually is a sign that she may flake. ESPECIALLY since she's been flakey with you before.

The best way to handle that was to contact her to say "Look, since you're not sure about what time you'll be free, let's do this another time." Then I'd listen closely to her answer.

Why are you bothering with flakes who you know have low interest anyway? She feeds you mixed messages because she can't say NO.
 

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I quickly skimmed your posts and it seems like your afraid to take a step because your afraid of what might go wrong 10 steps down. Just take a leap, stop over analyzing everything, if she's flaky & her friends are anti-internet meet up, your going to be screwed in a couple of weeks any ways when she tells them how you met.

Stop worrying about it, if its meant to be, then it will.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Man, you're missing something here. You have to treat this whole situation as though you know what you want, and you know how to get it. You shouldn't second guess yourself because you know who you are. You don't need this woman, so you don't have to walk softly around her in order to keep from scaring her away. You need to look at your situation with women differently. When they are with you, you should treat them as though you're doing them a favor by allowing them to be there with you. If you don't see yourself as something to be had, they won't either.

So, play the way you want it, and if she doesn't play along, then move to the next one. Don't be too available, don't be needy, don't be desperate, and don't be too eager. Play in a way that shows that you love your life, you love your hobbies, you love your friends, and you're a busy person. So, if she can't make time, so what! You've got things to do anyway and convey that.
 

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pete101 said:
i was thinking of sending 'dont know im getting a new phone so looking for a good one right now. give me a time to meet and we'll meet.'

is this a good reponse? or should i say something more on the lines of her telling to state me a time and i'll let her know if i can do it..?
Until you start understanding what people are telling you, you won't know what to do. You won't know how to do it. You won't know when to do it. You have to work on yourself. You're making this girl "it". All consuming! Treat her as though she's just something on the side. Something that just adds to your collection of things that keep you busy.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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