so i asked the girl if she wanted to hang out tmr..... and she was like ill let u know tmr..... and she never did lol. freeze out or call her out on it? I have to assume she is somewhat interested since we made out for 2 hrs 2 days ago
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
when to freeze a girl out... i want to build more interest thru text
- Thread starter cguy2004
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Johnnyventana
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I would seriously wait until she contacts you. Set the precedent early that you are not up for shyte! You asked her out, she said she'd let you know, and then she didn't.
Let's be honest. How hard would it have been to send you a quick text saying, sorry, can't today. It would have taken her all of 10 seconds.
Don't chase. You should be pissed. She wasted your time. You could have made other plans. There is no excuse.
If you MUST contact her. Wait a few days and say, "Hey, What the heck? You never got back to me. All I want to know now is how are you going to make this up to me? I think making me dinner is a good start."
Let's be honest. How hard would it have been to send you a quick text saying, sorry, can't today. It would have taken her all of 10 seconds.
Don't chase. You should be pissed. She wasted your time. You could have made other plans. There is no excuse.
If you MUST contact her. Wait a few days and say, "Hey, What the heck? You never got back to me. All I want to know now is how are you going to make this up to me? I think making me dinner is a good start."
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Vice
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This must be a f*cking joke topic.cguy2004 said:
What the f*ck?
Build text through attraction? Are you SERIOUS?
You think that the best way to build attraction is through TEXT? By punching little plastic buttons on an overpriced piece of plastic?
What about the other 93% of communication, the nonverbals?
What happened to being a MAN and calling her? What happened to realizing that people have LIVES, and understanding that sh*t happens?
And another thing, you claim that you "don't play games" and "can do much better". If you didn't really "play games", you wouldn't be asking if ignoring her for a week would build attraction. The very subtext of saying "I don't play games" is that you play games!
My advice? Call her. Don't be a little boy and be upset that she didn't call you. No need to play games.