"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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WHen to call or text?

Dman101

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I've been on 4 dates with a girl and she seems really interested .. we hold hands and kiss and all of that. So far i've seen her like once every 10 days or so and text once every 3 days or so. SHe never really initiates. What do you think is the best way to play this as far as seeing her, calling and texting. I think she has a lot of potential
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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hi2u

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Don't obsess over these details. Cook her dinner and watch a movie at your place and fvck her. Seriously.
 

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Been on four dates and your asking when you should be calling her? I think you're asking the wrong question. IMO you should be moving on to sex with her.
 

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Dman101 said:
I've been on 4 dates with a girl and she seems really interested .. we hold hands and kiss and all of that
Be careful not to be too lovey dovey early on. There has to be progress both on an emotional level and physical level and if the emotional level gets too far ahead before the physical, you probably won't get to hit it but rather get hit with the LJBF speech.
 

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If she's never initiated then you should hold back until she does. Test for interest and take the power away from her--let her initiate next time. If she doesn't, move along.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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tsmith2334

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Jaxon said:
If she's never initiated then you should hold back until she does. Test for interest and take the power away from her--let her initiate next time. If she doesn't, move along.
she's interested, the dates are going well, they're kissing... he's supposed to next her if she doesn't send him a text? you guys are crazy sometimes
 

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Action Jaxon basically said the same thing to me in my thread. I don't see the point of moving on just because the girls isn't super high interest.
 

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IT feels pretty high when I'm with her. Part of me is saying that its inevitable that imma be with her from the high interest she shows and she seems like a really quality women, but then another part of me is doubting things since deep down I have insecurities that im trying to hide.. plus ive only been seeing her less than once a week 4 times so far . I'm still gonna chill with other girls for now but I want to make this work
 

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Keep occupied and you wont think about it so much. Do some hobbies or something, and when you feel like its time to call her call her.

Make sure you dont just dissappear though.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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