"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

When they come back & escalation

Murk

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 17, 2017
Messages
4,359
Reaction score
3,322
Age
37
Location
London
Ok no not a girlfriend, just a girl you had been seeing.

This Australian went back home for over a month and leading up to that we had been on a few dates, kissed on the first but seem to have friend zoned each other and had trouble escalating, she even said to me "you would be a really good friend". Homie weren't tryna play that so I just cut contact (was supposed to take her to the airport but just ghosted weeks before).

Now she's been messaging me this week that shes back this weekend and asking me for some cool spots to hit up in Prague as she's going for a hen do and I have been recently (plus casual reasons to text and asking me advice on stuff).

Anyway, I did like her, we did have something, and she has been doing all the initiation for the longest so I'm wondering how I can reengage her but not as a friend only as a love interest. Also I'm wondering if she secretly just wants a ride from the airport on Friday (not gonna happen).

I actually have a GF but we have both agreed the whole thing has been going south for months (we both tried to break up over Xmas but ended up going out NYE with a group of our friends and had a good time). I see this Australian as my monkey branch, I do not have time for dating this early in the new year due to work and life commitments.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

RangerMIke

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 23, 2014
Messages
4,762
Reaction score
7,975
Location
USA, Louisiana
Do you live near her? If so, make a date and see what happens.

In my experience you have a less than 50-50 shot if you are already 'friends'... it is too hard to change that dynamic. The only way you can REALLY pull it off is to have time away from a chick, like MONTHS, with no contact... then give it a shot. And even then, you REALLY have to want this, which means you will be putting out an epic-ally needy vibe which will destroy you.
 

Chev.Chelios

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 27, 2016
Messages
624
Reaction score
572
Age
34
Location
Spokane, Wa
"getting placed in the friend zoned is the man's choice"
 

jaymbrs

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 27, 2017
Messages
1,966
Reaction score
1,969
Age
39
You gotta break through that friend barrier. Def go out with the intention of getting intoxicated together and then make a move. If successful, you’ll officially have an opportunity for her to look at yalls situation from a non friend perspective.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
Alcohol and escalation is your best chance.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

wifehunter

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
5,145
Reaction score
3,302
Age
52
Location
Hoe County, California
yawn, what was this thread about again?
 
Top