Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
You pay for it IF you are the one who invited her out. If not? Then you don't pay.BackInTheGame78 said:Why would you ever have a check on a first date?
Fail.
Why would you spend that type of money on someone if you don't even know if they are worth it or you will even get along. First dates are exploratory to see if you want to see them again, and if they are going to give it up easy.BeenLaiden said:You pay for it IF you are the one who invited her out. If not? Then you don't pay.
Some people like doing different things and actually trying new places not living their lives in coffee shops or bars or trying to bring every girl they meet back to their place and then get mad at the same women for being "slvts" when that's what they were looking for in the first place.
I for one don't pedestalize puss altering what I want to do or where I want to go or take them. Whether I get some up front or not. Living in coffee shops, bars, and or trying to take them back to yours or their place for sex isn't the end all be all to my life. I'm way beyond that nonsense. Others either have no money and or they pretend to not pedestalize the puss while trying to "win" some ridiculous "game" and then get angry because then "all women are X" after they got what they were seeking in the first place.
There's life beyond just getting laid or doing some constant money saving routine and not actually expanding your own experiences with someone.
I wouldn't ask them out in the first place if I didn't think they were worth it. Doesn't mean when you ask someone out you HAVE to spend a sh1t ton of money. But at times I personally feel like going someplace and bringing some chick I already know along. If they don't offer to pay anything or get me a drink etc? Then I don't ask them again.BackInTheGame78 said:Why would you spend that type of money on someone if you don't even know if they are worth it or you will even get along. First dates are exploratory to see if you want to see them again, and if they are going to give it up easy.
Not spending that type of money unless I know I'm with someone I'd enjoy spending the time and money on.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The question was specifically for a first date. If you already know them, typically it's not a first date.BeenLaiden said:I wouldn't ask them out in the first place if I didn't think they were worth it. Doesn't mean when you ask someone out you HAVE to spend a sh1t ton of money. But at times I personally feel like going someplace and bringing some chick I already know along. If they don't offer to pay anything or get me a drink etc? Then I don't ask them again.
I prefer to do my own thing. Not what others tell me to do. I live on my own terms. If I want to try some place out and invite someone? I will. Or they can meet, not show, decline, etc. I do what I want and I'm not dependent on a specific outcome. That's for puss pedestalizers.
BackInTheGame78 said:The question was specifically for a first date. If you already know them, typically it's not a first date.
you dont get it at all.BeenLaiden said:Meh. Depends. I still go where I want. It's not up to the chick or anyone else how I choose to spend my money. If I feel like going someplace nice I haven't been to I'm taking her if I want.
Doesn't mean I do it for everyone. Just where I feel like going. Means nothing to me or trying to "impress" her. It's where I felt like going at the time and who I felt like bringing or not. I don't worry about that nonsense. I do and go where and with whom I want to.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
So in other words you spend as little as possible as a reaction to what a woman might think about you because you're worried about a woman thinking you are trying to buy sex or using you.Alexandar said:you dont get it at all.
taking a girl on a first date to a place where youre spending more than a minimal. amount of cash will make her feel uncomfortable. it doesnt matter if u dont feel like you're trying to impress her, it comes across like that.
the good. girls will. feel like they owe you something in return, hence the becoming uncomfortable. they will feel like youre trying to buy sex.
the bad girls will see u as a beta loser and will use you as much as possible.
its common sense.
yannick43 said:Split, she is not your GF yet. At least theses are my rules. When i have a GF its one time you one time me. I never ever pay for a women all the time.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This type are the smart ones.Alexandar said:the bad girls will see u as a beta loser and will use you as much as possible.
Why don't you do that with buddies or people you know well rather then some strange broad you met in a bar and don't know at all?Webos said:They are with them to have a good time and enjoy the experience they can afford. Doesn't mean they are always doing that. Doesn't mean they are doing that because they find her "special". It's doing something different they might not have done or a place they haven't went to and are just having a good time.
I take out whom I choose and where I want to go. Doesn't mean I'm spending all my money the first time I meet them let alone wasting money on broads met at a bar. If I want to go out with friends. I go. If I feel like going someplace alone? I go. If I feel like taking some chick? I do. That's freedom. Doing what I want.yun-j said:Why don't you do that with buddies or people you know well rather then some strange broad you met in a bar and don't know at all?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.