"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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When should I stop initiating dates?

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What should I do if after five dates or so a girl hasn't initiated any date? But she's always willing to go on a date with me, she never refuses or flakes. A case of medium interest or simply a girl who expects a guy to initiates? Thanks.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If she had a good time on the date, then keep initiating. If she calls or texts you saying she misses you, that's code for "When are you gonna take me out again?". Good luck my man.
 

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So far, sounds like everything is going smooth. As the man, you are expected to initiate everything, until you two have advanced further. With that said, I have a few questions for you.

What are you looking for with this one? What type of relationship are you looking for with her?

How far have you advanced physically? Are you just taking her out on date after date, yet you haven't made a move? If that's the case, you might already be an "option" for her, and not much more.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
So far, sounds like everything is going smooth. As the man, you are expected to initiate everything, until you two have advanced further. With that said, I have a few questions for you.

What are you looking for with this one? What type of relationship are you looking for with her?

How far have you advanced physically? Are you just taking her out on date after date, yet you haven't made a move? If that's the case, you might already be an "option" for her, and not much more.
I'm looking for an LTR. Physically we haven't done anything and don't plan to because we both are religious persons (muslim). Yeah I know this is a rarity in this forum.
 

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budisudaryo said:
I'm looking for an LTR. Physically we haven't done anything and don't plan to because we both are religious persons (muslim). Yeah I know this is a rarity in this forum.
So you pursuing the courting route? Are you planning on going on 1000+ dates? Each time you go on one of those platonic dates, you are cementing your platonic relationship status. Not judging, just reporting.
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Gangster Of Love said:
So you pursuing the courting route? Are you planning on going on 1000+ dates? Each time you go on one of those platonic dates, you are cementing your platonic relationship status. Not judging, just reporting.
well then how do you explain those happy married couples that hadn't had sex until they're married?
 

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They spend time with eachother in general. Not just going on dates. You can invite a girl to the crib without trying to have sex *cringe*
 

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budisudaryo said:
well then how do you explain those happy married couples that hadn't had sex until they're married?
the same ones that got divorced later or has been having affairs?
 

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After your one thousand first date ask her father permission to marry her, if denied next her ass.
 

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You can't find the right answer from us, we're not her or even know her.
On the other hand, whats the longest you've ever been without going on a date with her? Whatever period that is, double it next time, and see what happens. Just for sake of experimenting. Also, try contacting her less for the next few days.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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