jglide123
Don Juan
Had this discussion with a few friends earlier. At what age should a man stop going to clubs? Interested in you guys' opinions....
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I thought that also - but I got my second wind at 37! With the right diet and exercise, aging is not a consistent fall-off, it's more like a sine curve. Since age 40 I've had 6 of my best girlfriends, and I'm only 41.5.Mike32ct said:At 28, I was hitting the clubs twice per week. At 36, I'm pretty much at the end of my clubbing days.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Good point. I'm currently working on my "second wind." I'm working out and improving my diet. I'm also gonna buzz and then soon shave my head. I'm handsome from the front, but the bald spot in the back has grown enough in size where it's hurting my game.bigneil said:I thought that also - but I got my second wind at 37! With the right diet and exercise, aging is not a consistent fall-off, it's more like a sine curve. Since age 40 I've had 6 of my best girlfriends, and I'm only 41.5.
Fair point. I mostly went to casino nightclubs which have a wider age range. Your typical downtown hip hop club will run much younger age-wise.gimmeyofonenumba said:I'm 25 and I'm already tired of clubs. I dunno why people brag about girls grinding on them. I really used to enjoy it but not so much. Its Not much of an accomplishment. I've seen girls grind with complete rejects. Anyways..to answer the question I'd say 29-30 for night clubs. I understand alota people may be building their social confidence late so alot of people on this forum will have a different view as to what society thinks.But past 30 you will certainly stand out at a night club. Not necessarily a bad thing. I've seen some of theese guys keep social value, but it does have a negative stigma. Depends on the type of club as well. If it's the typical hip hop night club then 29 is def. Too old. If its a more classier eclectic lounge type of club then perhaps early 30's.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.