"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

When She Talks Really Negative About Her Ex...

Disco

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2002
Messages
351
Reaction score
1
Location
Ope
What does that mean? She refers to him as "a loser"...."depressed"...."momma's boy", etc. Has never had anything nice to say about her ex. What does that mean? Why the resentment?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

DonGorgon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,679
Reaction score
102
Location
Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
ITS HER WAY OF TELLING YOU ALL THE THINGS SHE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO BE... BUT NOT NECESSARILY A TRUE DESCRIPTION OF HER EX's CHARACTER...

When she is mad at you those are the things she will accuse you of being also.. Many times its the way she sees most men due to her own issues with her dad..

Women/humans lie alot.. but the information contained within a lie can still be very useful in aiding your strategic formulations....
 

Disco

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2002
Messages
351
Reaction score
1
Location
Ope
I can see that. She still works with him and from time-to-time he will hit her up on email with some whinny **** about "needing her" and "how he is a loner and can' t connect with people". Actually last week he sent me an email telling me how jealous he was of mine and her's relationship b/c it seems we have a bond they never had. It was pathetic, she read it and just slams the guy. I don't partake in it though...just let her talk. He had my email address b/c their company hired me to do a job last year...small world.
 

Disco

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2002
Messages
351
Reaction score
1
Location
Ope
why is it a red flag? please explain more.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

Faded Image

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2004
Messages
428
Reaction score
7
Age
45
Location
Fort Bragg, NC
nmc
 

Faded Image

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2004
Messages
428
Reaction score
7
Age
45
Location
Fort Bragg, NC
Disco said:
why is it a red flag? please explain more.
Because it's a sign that they’re either not over their ex-bf or they had no respect for their ex-bf and ran all over them before breaking it off.

If she says things like that, you should observe her character and proceed cautiously.
 

Columbia

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2003
Messages
82
Reaction score
0
I agree with be cautious. Not all people are like my ex, but all through our relationship I heard her complain non-stop about how her ex-bf cheated on her blah blah blah. I never really believed it (long story).

She's now spreading absolutely identical rumours about me. ****ing ridiculous. She's using it to get whatever attention she wants.

She = my ex, not your gf by the way. I would just be wary of anyone who complains about their ex non-stop like that.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 18, 2007
Messages
2,051
Reaction score
21
Location
USA
Could be a red flag, could be her way of expressing what she doesn't want you to be. Or it just's her talking sh!t about an ex. You don't really know... If this is your girlfriend you are talking about... Aslong as her interest level is high in you. You should be fine.
 

IceBreaker

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2007
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Location
Calgary
open your eyes. She's complaining becuase she wants to break up with him, and she's waiting for you to make you're move... If you're right, then this guy seems pretty pathetic.

Now it just really depends if you like her or not. Then the next time you ask her out, hold her hand... if she squeezes back then you're in, if she pulls away then you have no chance, move on.

Don't leave her before you know what she's wanted. It's all about getting the experience to tell what signal she's trying to send
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Stud No1

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 6, 2007
Messages
146
Reaction score
0
maybe those descriptions are accurate but still beware. why does she care?

ive got first hand experience of this, an ex. They know he's useless, bad news etc, but believe it or not they could and sometimes do go back to them. Im not saying she'll cheat (but never rule it out, ever!) but if you broke up tommorow you shouldn't be shocked if the atleast has a fling with him again. Thats how girls work, they dont act with their heads.
 

Stud No1

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 6, 2007
Messages
146
Reaction score
0
update - i had assumed you were talking aobut your gf, you could have made that much clearer from thread title and initial post than you did.

anyway, maybe she is pretty repulsed by her ex, alot of relationships end like this. But still, you stay neutral. She could ***** about him all day but shag him that night, literally.
 

puma183

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 21, 2008
Messages
145
Reaction score
7
Location
Midwest USA
Listen to her words carefully. She is talking about you, in 3 months time, when she has moved on to and wooing the next victim.
 

Jitterbug

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Messages
3,197
Reaction score
140
Women b!tch about their ex to shift all the blame on the guys to forget about the fact that they CHOSE to be in that relationship and were a part of it. Just one of the ways they deny accountability for the choices they made themselves.

A woman who rants about how terrible her ex BFs were to her is telling you one thing: she has bad taste in men.
 

Juan_Man

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 3, 2001
Messages
1,103
Reaction score
28
Did this guy cheat on her or was he emotionally and/or physically abusive to her? If not, then I would be cautious of her. If she doesn't have respect for her last relationship, then she will not be respectful to you during your relationship with her.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Joined
Oct 22, 2008
Messages
332
Reaction score
19
Jitterbug said:
Women b!tch about their ex to shift all the blame on the guys to forget about the fact that they CHOSE to be in that relationship and were a part of it. Just one of the ways they deny accountability for the choices they made themselves.

A woman who rants about how terrible her ex BFs were to her is telling you one thing: she has bad taste in men.
haha so true, but could it be a shyt test?
 

Jitterbug

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Messages
3,197
Reaction score
140
Azudragon said:
haha so true, but could it be a shyt test?
Don't think it's a test, but if it is, I believe that a sh!t test says just as much about the woman doing the testing as it is about the man dealing with it. In other words, she's still low quality.
 
Top