"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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When She Talks Really Negative About Her Ex...

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What does that mean? She refers to him as "a loser"...."depressed"...."momma's boy", etc. Has never had anything nice to say about her ex. What does that mean? Why the resentment?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
ITS HER WAY OF TELLING YOU ALL THE THINGS SHE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO BE... BUT NOT NECESSARILY A TRUE DESCRIPTION OF HER EX's CHARACTER...

When she is mad at you those are the things she will accuse you of being also.. Many times its the way she sees most men due to her own issues with her dad..

Women/humans lie alot.. but the information contained within a lie can still be very useful in aiding your strategic formulations....
 

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I can see that. She still works with him and from time-to-time he will hit her up on email with some whinny **** about "needing her" and "how he is a loner and can' t connect with people". Actually last week he sent me an email telling me how jealous he was of mine and her's relationship b/c it seems we have a bond they never had. It was pathetic, she read it and just slams the guy. I don't partake in it though...just let her talk. He had my email address b/c their company hired me to do a job last year...small world.
 

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why is it a red flag? please explain more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Disco said:
why is it a red flag? please explain more.
Because it's a sign that they’re either not over their ex-bf or they had no respect for their ex-bf and ran all over them before breaking it off.

If she says things like that, you should observe her character and proceed cautiously.
 

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I agree with be cautious. Not all people are like my ex, but all through our relationship I heard her complain non-stop about how her ex-bf cheated on her blah blah blah. I never really believed it (long story).

She's now spreading absolutely identical rumours about me. ****ing ridiculous. She's using it to get whatever attention she wants.

She = my ex, not your gf by the way. I would just be wary of anyone who complains about their ex non-stop like that.
 

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Could be a red flag, could be her way of expressing what she doesn't want you to be. Or it just's her talking sh!t about an ex. You don't really know... If this is your girlfriend you are talking about... Aslong as her interest level is high in you. You should be fine.
 

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open your eyes. She's complaining becuase she wants to break up with him, and she's waiting for you to make you're move... If you're right, then this guy seems pretty pathetic.

Now it just really depends if you like her or not. Then the next time you ask her out, hold her hand... if she squeezes back then you're in, if she pulls away then you have no chance, move on.

Don't leave her before you know what she's wanted. It's all about getting the experience to tell what signal she's trying to send
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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maybe those descriptions are accurate but still beware. why does she care?

ive got first hand experience of this, an ex. They know he's useless, bad news etc, but believe it or not they could and sometimes do go back to them. Im not saying she'll cheat (but never rule it out, ever!) but if you broke up tommorow you shouldn't be shocked if the atleast has a fling with him again. Thats how girls work, they dont act with their heads.
 

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update - i had assumed you were talking aobut your gf, you could have made that much clearer from thread title and initial post than you did.

anyway, maybe she is pretty repulsed by her ex, alot of relationships end like this. But still, you stay neutral. She could ***** about him all day but shag him that night, literally.
 

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Listen to her words carefully. She is talking about you, in 3 months time, when she has moved on to and wooing the next victim.
 

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Women b!tch about their ex to shift all the blame on the guys to forget about the fact that they CHOSE to be in that relationship and were a part of it. Just one of the ways they deny accountability for the choices they made themselves.

A woman who rants about how terrible her ex BFs were to her is telling you one thing: she has bad taste in men.
 

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Did this guy cheat on her or was he emotionally and/or physically abusive to her? If not, then I would be cautious of her. If she doesn't have respect for her last relationship, then she will not be respectful to you during your relationship with her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jitterbug said:
Women b!tch about their ex to shift all the blame on the guys to forget about the fact that they CHOSE to be in that relationship and were a part of it. Just one of the ways they deny accountability for the choices they made themselves.

A woman who rants about how terrible her ex BFs were to her is telling you one thing: she has bad taste in men.
haha so true, but could it be a shyt test?
 

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Azudragon said:
haha so true, but could it be a shyt test?
Don't think it's a test, but if it is, I believe that a sh!t test says just as much about the woman doing the testing as it is about the man dealing with it. In other words, she's still low quality.
 
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