When do you call?

[MichaelA]

Hey guys this is my second post here.

Started to follow AMS on youtube and i realized the whole stuff i was doing wrong.

Its like a lightbold striked in my head.

I got 2 phone numbers from 2 women both of them are in the scale of 8.

One number i got from facebook, other in person.

So my question is when do you call? After a week?

Also AMS states you dont kiss on first date to let her wondering. I really dont get that if i get the signals i will go for the kiss, how do you guys handle that?

 

[marmel75]

Whenever you want. Thinking about "rules" simply means you havent gotten to the point where you are confident enough in the outcome that it doesnt matter. The reason these rules came about is because too many guys are desperate and needy. The rules only make you APPEAR to not be desperate and needy but in reality the person following them still actually is. When the person is NOT desperate and needy their actions will reflect that making it unnecessary to follow these "rules".

The more you try and follow "rules" the longer it will take to realize your potential. Rules are like training wheels. They keep you from falling on your face at first but they also keep you from going fast too...you are locked in at like 25% of your maximum speed.

Anyone advocating not kissing on a first date should not be giving dating advice. You should be trying to fvck on a first date and you cant get there without kissing first in 99.9% of cases.

 

[MichaelA]

Whenever you want. Thinking about "rules" simply means you havent gotten to the point where you are confident enough in the outcome that it doesnt matter.

The more you try and follow "rules" the longer it will take to realize your potential. Rules are like training wheels. They keep you from falling on your face at first but they also keep you from going fast too...you are locked in at like 25% of your maximum speed.

Anyone advocating not kissing on a first date should not be giving dating advice. You should be trying to fvck on a first date and you cant get there without kissing first in 99.9% of cases.

That's true, but there has to be some form of game i d'ont mean having a strategy and a notebook but some kind of direction, to not look needy and desperate generally just the right approach to the things that may come up with a woman so that they can be handled properly.

This is what i'm striving for.

 

[marmel75]

That's true, but there has to be some form of game i d'ont mean having a strategy and a notebook but some kind of direction, to not look needy and desperate generally just the right approach to the things that may come up with a woman so that they can be handled properly.

This is what i'm striving for.

See this is my point...are you desperate and needy? If so, then follow the rules so it doesn't appear that you are but your goal ultimately should be to get to the point where you are completely not desperate and needy, have an abundance and simply don't care and do what you want.

 

[Murk]

A week is too long, I would call the next couple of days later depending on when I wanted a date.

Always go for a kiss on the first date: ABE -always be escalating.

 

[MichaelA]

See this is my point...are you desperate and needy? If so, then follow the rules so it doesn't appear that you are but your goal ultimately should be to get to the point where you are completely not desperate and needy, have an abundance and simply don't care and do what you want.

Exactly thanks.

 

[MichaelA]

A week is too long, I would call the next couple of days later depending on when I wanted a date.

Always go for a kiss on the first date: ABE -always be escalating.

Correct, what i was thinking as well got the number from one woman yesterday, will call after 2-3 days.

 

[MichaelA]

Been times where I haven't had or made a single phone call in a relationship lasting 3+months.

So when someone says that "you need to call after 3 days", I can't help but think it's a bit daft.

Who is this guy? I assume he is a professional?

Does he have a run through of a set that I can watch?



Don't stick to one view. Try loads of different stuff.

Read stuff. Apply it. Discuss it.

Takes about 6 months (imo) to develop a taste for what suits you best. But you won't know by listening to just one person.

I have my own ways of adjusting accordingly to situations but you are right its about taste and what suits you best adjusting to your personality but in some ways the so called game is the same in certain situations.

 

[greatsnake]

There are no set rules as to when to call/text, but do maintain your frame.