"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When do you call?

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Hey guys this is my second post here.

Started to follow AMS on youtube and i realized the whole stuff i was doing wrong.

Its like a lightbold striked in my head.

I got 2 phone numbers from 2 women both of them are in the scale of 8.

One number i got from facebook, other in person.

So my question is when do you call? After a week?

Also AMS states you dont kiss on first date to let her wondering. I really dont get that if i get the signals i will go for the kiss, how do you guys handle that?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Whenever you want. Thinking about "rules" simply means you havent gotten to the point where you are confident enough in the outcome that it doesnt matter. The reason these rules came about is because too many guys are desperate and needy. The rules only make you APPEAR to not be desperate and needy but in reality the person following them still actually is. When the person is NOT desperate and needy their actions will reflect that making it unnecessary to follow these "rules".

The more you try and follow "rules" the longer it will take to realize your potential. Rules are like training wheels. They keep you from falling on your face at first but they also keep you from going fast too...you are locked in at like 25% of your maximum speed.

Anyone advocating not kissing on a first date should not be giving dating advice. You should be trying to fvck on a first date and you cant get there without kissing first in 99.9% of cases.
 
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Whenever you want. Thinking about "rules" simply means you havent gotten to the point where you are confident enough in the outcome that it doesnt matter.

The more you try and follow "rules" the longer it will take to realize your potential. Rules are like training wheels. They keep you from falling on your face at first but they also keep you from going fast too...you are locked in at like 25% of your maximum speed.

Anyone advocating not kissing on a first date should not be giving dating advice. You should be trying to fvck on a first date and you cant get there without kissing first in 99.9% of cases.
That's true, but there has to be some form of game i d'ont mean having a strategy and a notebook but some kind of direction, to not look needy and desperate generally just the right approach to the things that may come up with a woman so that they can be handled properly.

This is what i'm striving for.
 

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That's true, but there has to be some form of game i d'ont mean having a strategy and a notebook but some kind of direction, to not look needy and desperate generally just the right approach to the things that may come up with a woman so that they can be handled properly.

This is what i'm striving for.
See this is my point...are you desperate and needy? If so, then follow the rules so it doesn't appear that you are but your goal ultimately should be to get to the point where you are completely not desperate and needy, have an abundance and simply don't care and do what you want.
 

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A week is too long, I would call the next couple of days later depending on when I wanted a date.

Always go for a kiss on the first date: ABE -always be escalating.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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See this is my point...are you desperate and needy? If so, then follow the rules so it doesn't appear that you are but your goal ultimately should be to get to the point where you are completely not desperate and needy, have an abundance and simply don't care and do what you want.
Exactly thanks.
 

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A week is too long, I would call the next couple of days later depending on when I wanted a date.

Always go for a kiss on the first date: ABE -always be escalating.
Correct, what i was thinking as well got the number from one woman yesterday, will call after 2-3 days.
 

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Been times where I haven't had or made a single phone call in a relationship lasting 3+months.

So when someone says that "you need to call after 3 days", I can't help but think it's a bit daft.

Who is this guy? I assume he is a professional?

Does he have a run through of a set that I can watch?



Don't stick to one view. Try loads of different stuff.

Read stuff. Apply it. Discuss it.

Takes about 6 months (imo) to develop a taste for what suits you best. But you won't know by listening to just one person.
I have my own ways of adjusting accordingly to situations but you are right its about taste and what suits you best adjusting to your personality but in some ways the so called game is the same in certain situations.
 

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There are no set rules as to when to call/text, but do maintain your frame.
 
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