"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ZTIME

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I know. I want to marry her. She was a Virgin when I met her. Popped her. Did all the sins under the sun lol. Tbh I just can't pray when I know I'm ignoring all other parts of my religion. At least for a month I can.

That and also my dependance on the girl. Need to rectify it and rebuild. I mean you can see the repricussions the nc is having after 7 days. I knew it would come but I want to deal with it. Master it if anything.
Simple.

Each paragraph you posted is a different reason for your no contact. Maybe you are less into the religious part (as stated in your first post), and more into using your religion as a reason to just see if you can stay away from the girl.

Maybe it's a game you're playing with her or yourself. This is a forum not a church. So I supply maybes not absolutes.

Seems weird that her "being much more religious than you" , isn't forcing NC on you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Simple.

Each paragraph you posted is a different reason for your no contact. Maybe you are less into the religious part (as stated in your first post), and more into using your religion as a reason to just see if you can stay away from the girl.

Maybe it's a game you're playing with her or yourself. This is a forum not a church. So I supply maybes not absolutes.

Seems weird that her "being much more religious than you" , isn't forcing NC on you.
You are right. It is less to do with the religion more to do with gaming and self rectification. I see it and I made myself believe otherwise.

What can I do from here?
 

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I know. I want to marry her. She was a Virgin when I met her. Popped her. Did all the sins under the sun lol. Tbh I just can't pray when I know I'm ignoring all other parts of my religion. At least for a month I can.

That and also my dependance on the girl. Need to rectify it and rebuild. I mean you can see the repricussions the nc is having after 7 days. I knew it would come but I want to deal with it. Master it if anything.
Does it not seem strange that religions want you to act like it was back in the days when the most exciting thing that was going on chasing down that runaway camel? I mean think about it. There was nothing to do and nowhere to go. Of course they had all day to pray.

So the way we do everything in life changes other than the way we pray? That doesn't seem to make sense.
 

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You are right. It is less to do with the religion more to do with gaming and self rectification. I see it and I made myself believe otherwise.

What can I do from here?
Well, in my world I reflect on choices which are the best for me. If I like a woman but feel a little dependency creeping up, I readjust my thinking accordingly.

The problem with using your religion as an excuse to protect your self confidence is that after 30 days you have 11 months to use that excuse again. It also doesn't help you to fix the real problem, which is your own frame in relationships.
 

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Well, in my world I reflect on choices which are the best for me. If I like a woman but feel a little dependency creeping up, I readjust my thinking accordingly.

The problem with using your religion as an excuse to protect your self confidence is that after 30 days you have 11 months to use that excuse again. It also doesn't help you to fix the real problem, which is your own frame in relationships.
Lol I love how you caught me out on my bs. I've discussed this with mates and they've eaten it up lol. Don juans ey.

saying you would readjust your thinking how so? What would you do. Plus what can I do in the situation I'm in now? Do you see anything I can do ?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Lol I love how you caught me out on my bs. I've discussed this with mates and they've eaten it up lol. Don juans ey.

saying you would readjust your thinking how so? What would you do. Plus what can I do in the situation I'm in now? Do you see anything I can do ?
I can only answer for me saying that when I need to adjust my frame, I take a couple days to make sure all of my goals are being met, and that no one is stopping me from meeting them.

Women are great for my free time, but my goals (physically, mentally, and financially) come first. As long as they're being met....bring on the women!

If your friends really bought into your religious excuse, you may need to meet new friends, or be destined to be a big fish in a little pond for a long time.
 
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