Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
dont be foistin beth! I'm watching for you sneaky pro-lifers! LOL
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
What's Wrong With Single Mothers?
- Thread starter RockaRolla25
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Joe Stud
Master Don Juan
dont be foistin beth! I'm watching for you sneaky pro-lifers! LOL
why bash guys who chose not to date single mothers? it's their right who they chose to date isn't it? every single mother i've tried to date always ended up screwing me over, lesson learned, don't date them anymore. now i stick to girls who either don't want kids or don't have kids and it makes life alot easier for me. it's all personal choice.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
This is a topic that' won't go away, I've already giving my opinion on this countless times
I have tried dating single mothers and out of the hundreds that I've met probably only a handful were LTR material the thing is a lot of single mothers.
Heres my thing, if she has time, something that 99.9% of them don't have. Intrigues me, and meets my list then i might date one seriously, but I'm not holding my breath!
I have tried dating single mothers and out of the hundreds that I've met probably only a handful were LTR material the thing is a lot of single mothers.
Heres my thing, if she has time, something that 99.9% of them don't have. Intrigues me, and meets my list then i might date one seriously, but I'm not holding my breath!
Poonani Maker
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The single mother where the Father has custody, because she lost that battle because of her notorious track-record (jail-time/drugs), That's the kind of single mom that always has time for you, the one who has to Visit her kids. It's rare but she's there somewhere in your town, and she may be hot.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
OH he11, just marry her then and tell us how it is in 15 years. Pay for another mans kid thru college etc. But when the kid is screwing with your life and YOU try to discipline "it" you will hear "IT'S not YOUR kid, you don't have a say"
jafyk
Master Don Juan
Ok, to the OP I think you should look at this thread it might help answer some of the question you had in mind when starting this thread and then see my comment in this thread as well http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=180715
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Desdinova
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The positives: SM's are generally quite mature. They know how to cook, clean, take care of finances, and deal with stress.
The negatives: Their kid(s) gets first choice when it comes to time and attention. If the dad fvcked off and they have the kid(s) full time, that leaves nearly no time for you. If the dad gets time with the kids, that gives you a bit more time with her, but you'll have to listen to how much of an a55hole the dad is.
The negatives: Their kid(s) gets first choice when it comes to time and attention. If the dad fvcked off and they have the kid(s) full time, that leaves nearly no time for you. If the dad gets time with the kids, that gives you a bit more time with her, but you'll have to listen to how much of an a55hole the dad is.
Im a strong believer of taking all the territory for myself.
I would rather get a new SLK mercedes than a second hand Lamborghini whos engine have problems because of the previous owner.
I don't want to have in my home or life extra subjects like a father who comes to pick the kid in the week end and force me to review my schedule or create even more drama for the woman.
In my home the only man who has a word or space its me.
It's not that much the kid, it's more the fact that my control over my goddamn life and home would be sensibly decreased, if I wanted to be told what to do or share my place with others and negotiate I would have remained in the army.
I also would have problem and would feel a coward to scream to an other guy to which I have no connection and whos too young, while with a son
Im supposed to do so if he does anything wrong.
It's not a moral question it's simply a territorial and instinctual one.
I would rather get a new SLK mercedes than a second hand Lamborghini whos engine have problems because of the previous owner.
I don't want to have in my home or life extra subjects like a father who comes to pick the kid in the week end and force me to review my schedule or create even more drama for the woman.
In my home the only man who has a word or space its me.
It's not that much the kid, it's more the fact that my control over my goddamn life and home would be sensibly decreased, if I wanted to be told what to do or share my place with others and negotiate I would have remained in the army.
I also would have problem and would feel a coward to scream to an other guy to which I have no connection and whos too young, while with a son
Im supposed to do so if he does anything wrong.
It's not a moral question it's simply a territorial and instinctual one.
5string
Master Don Juan
Someone Much cooler
Senior Don Juan
I'll be back to post...beatin a dead horse is fun...no surprises
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Poonani Maker said:
You forgot to add she will probably bat**** crazy which is why she doesn't have her kid in the first place. Just got through dating one of those. Apparently she decided to get off her meds that I didn't know that she was on, decided to get drunk, and decided started yelling at the screen in the middle of film festival. Then she threatened to punch out a 60 something year old man who had the nerve to ask her to be quiet while I was away in the bathroom. Imagine coming back to that scene after a piss. On the upside she was hot and pretty much into everything in bed. But that was the last straw hot sex wasn't worth public disasters.
It brings their market value down, which they offset by being hotter and easier, so you often end up with hotter women with more baggage.
Once you hit your mid 30's it's hard to find women who have no kids and who are attractive.
But if you're under 25 forget them.
Once you hit your mid 30's it's hard to find women who have no kids and who are attractive.
But if you're under 25 forget them.
SgtSplacker
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Single moms are cool if they understand that you are making a sacrifice to be with them. And because of this they try to cater to you a bit more. It's only fair. I have met some single moms that celebrate making you second maybe fourth fiddle in their lives. Fine I understand your kid is important to you, but the only thing you are really gaining from the relationship is the bang. While she stands to not only satisfy her libido but financial gains as well. I dated a chick that would get mad if I spent less that like $80 taking her out because she would have to shell out $60 for a babysitter whenever we went out. So I could only call her for expensive nights out or nothing because I wasnt ready to meet her kid yet. She was hot, I took her out twice and lost interest and a lil cash in the process. Theres states where you can be made responsible for child support just because you were there for most of the childs upbringing whether the child was genetically yours or not, also common law marriages. After all nothing is stopping you from just going out and getting some tighter poon that doesnt have so many obligations. There is no benefit to dating a single mother for a single man, on the contrary there are only drawbacks.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.