"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PUA_GUY

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I read some quick tips off this site and a lot of it is made by "women". To be honest coming off a site which has many pioneers and great contributors to the seduction game today this women's advice seemed rather lame!

For eq:
http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall100.htm

Leaving messages when you call? Why so the chick never rings you back making you look even more like a tool?

It also stated to compliment women left to right... seriously theres nothing worse than blabbing compliments left to right to every chick that walks by, sure it will work magic on ugly chicks but with the hotties it wont get you far at all infact give away your intetentions, am I missing something or do you guys enjoy sarging ugly chicks?
I learned through practice that complimenting women only when they DO look smashing and you have already slept with her, or compliment something which no one else sees.
http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip16.htm


A good site but whats up with that AFC advice in between?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I totally agree! I've been lurking on these forums for over a year and finally became a member. There has been an influx of female "djs" and female dating advice recently.

This site is for men to come lick their wounds, share their stories, and become strong. The female advice is what got us on the wrong track to begin with!

I mean I appreciate anyone from either gender striving to improve the romantic relationships and understand the underlying power dynamics. However, I don't think women should give men advice, and vice versa. Especially on practical concrete techniques.

One of my best female friends recently came to me with the agony of being in a friend relationship with another friend but she wanted more. I gave her advice and she didn't understand most of it. She's a smart girl too. As I was in the midst of making another attempt, I realized that she would never understand because she's in the female position of the love dance.

Even if she followed my advice, it would not work out for her. For example, one of the things I told her was to kill the friendship in her mind, aim to start the relationship over as a romance, and tell her friend that she wanted to date him. If she did this though, the fact that she had to make the first bold move would always bother her.

Men and women should figure out the dating game seperately unless, of course, they're on dates together. :)
 

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Originally posted by AlwaysExcel
This site is for men to come lick their wounds, share their stories, and become strong. The female advice is what got us on the wrong track to begin with!
How did I leave that out? :)

I will appreciate women's advice when it is the advice made for guys to succeed with women not to make both sides equal even when the chick is giving you the biggest **** test yet!

Further I learned not to see what women say but rather what they do...
 

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Women don't always give bad advice. My mom gave me some good advice about leaving messages "ONLY SETTLE FOR SPEAKING TO HER IN PERSON." I don't have time to leave messages and play phone tag with women.
 

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I stopped reading the rest of the stuff on this ages ago. The forums is where the real gold is at - you'll learn which people know what they're talking about and which people are just blowing hot air.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by PUA_GUY

It also stated to compliment women left to right... seriously theres nothing worse than blabbing compliments left to right to every chick that walks by, sure it will work magic on ugly chicks but with the hotties it wont get you far at all infact give away your intetentions, am I missing something or do you guys enjoy sarging ugly chicks?
I learned through practice that complimenting women only when they DO look smashing and you have already slept with her, or compliment something which no one else sees.
Did you read the bible? Its stated everywhere not to compliment women except on certain ocasions!! U gotta learn to play the ego game. You are just being a chump with those compliments.

Also, complimenting a chick that passes by is not a decent aproach!! Go practice.
 

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Originally posted by Porky
I stopped reading the rest of the stuff on this ages ago. The forums is where the real gold is at - you'll learn which people know what they're talking about and which people are just blowing hot air.
Your only meant to start associating with other seducers online only when you have learned enough knowledge to contribute/help others online. If the online "journal" isnt up to the par then what info will other guys of this site contribute based on this dilemma?

I mean its not a biggie but glad that people are actually aware of it.
 
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