"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
What would you consider SHORT?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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seriously, dude?Toast123 said:
d!ckmojo
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average = 5'10
tall = 6'2
Mike32ct
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^This.d!ckmojo said:
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Tall above 6FT
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Bible_Belt
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The height that makes you get a complex about it.
d!ckmojo
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Kids are tall these days... it ain't no thang for young guys to be 6'6, but for most guys, 6'2 is still considered pretty tall, and 5'11 is quite average. (I said 5'10 was average in my previous post, but a 5'11 dude in the morning would be 5'10 at night...)Kerpal said:
I go to the website celebheights.com quite a lot. Its got nice discussions on famous dudes' heights.
For an indication of how 5'11 is an average height, celebheights lists Brad Pitt at 5'11, Michael Fassbender 5'11, Orlando Bloom (who's wifey is smokin hawt) at 5'10.5, and Matt Damon at 5'10 flat.
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Of course, women may exaggerate it a bit, (especially since women are getting much taller these days too), but even if you are 5'8'', you are still taller than most women.
If a woman is hung up on your height, then forget her
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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I find I'm probably on the short side of average among males my age, but it's nothing to worry about.
Floyd Mayweather is like 5ft 7, do you think he walks around feeling sorry for himself?
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Muscular guys usually seems taller since they "fill" space, while I noticed that many guys that were taller than me actually looked my height or short if not close to compare.
Also personality plays a role, dominant man looks taller even if they are not.
And dont forget your body posture as well, most of men could get a inch only by filling their lungs and walk straight.
Regarding your question I agree with d1ckmojo, just considering slight difference between countries actually, tall in spain is average in holland.
The bottom line is that women only care about your height if you care. They seem to be content if you're taller than them. I'm sure some taller women have shot me down because I'm short, but I've also hooked up with girls a couple inches taller.
I consider like 5'10"ish pretty normal.
5'9 is average. Anything over is considered tall. Anything under is considered short.
5'10 is two inches away from being 6 feet. Hardly short, or average.
VladPatton
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BadNews
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Agreed. In fact I have female friends who have 6ft as a requirement for any men they date hahahaha.TonyBaloney said:
Bible_Belt
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Even at an amateur level, maybe it's because of the weight classes, there are more short fighters than tall. Wrestling is the same way, especially at collegiate levels. You don't see many tall guys. But at the same time, from what I've seen at least, most of them seem to do fine with women.