"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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What Works For Me

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As someone who's naturally shy around attractive girls, I have the tendency to jump the gun in many situations. That is, I'll finally muster up the balls to make a move, but when I do, it comes across as OUT OF THE BLUE and not very smooth. However I've noticed something interesting, here's an example...
I met this beautiful all-natural Hawaiin chick named Oriana last summer. One night we agreed to meet up at the beach. I brought a lil' somethin to smoke on, and she brought an unopened fifth of Gin.
So there we were on the sand, taking shots, talking, and laying on the blankets I had the foresight to bring. Well the tide was rising but we decided to risk getting trapped and soaked, get drunk, and spend the night under the stars.
All this time I'm waiting for the "right time" to break the physical barrier. Finally I said something like, "C'mere, cuddle with me." She answered, "Nah, I'm alright." I felt rejected and lay on my back, but acted as though nothing had happened and continued laughing and conversing with her. The next thing I know, she was laying on top of me!
The point is, there've been several occasions where I've met with initial resistance, but because I played it off and stayed upbeat, the girl seemed to wonder why I wasn't being pushy and started taking the initiative herself. Then I realized that even girls who are interested try to make you work for it a bit, and you shouldn't assume that rejection is final. Be patient and persistent, see what happens!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Yep, don't show that you were effected by it. It truly shows who has the power; her by you being effected by it, or you by not being effected by it.
 
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"Come here cuddle with me"? Not very smooth.. but whatever works for you.. I would had just done it without permission. If I get rejected, then I lay low for awhile and try again. You should always try and remain unphased by **** like that though, good tip in that sense.
 
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Yeah girls will often put up a little resistance when you want to go to the next level. If they reject you, try again in a little bit. If they still reject you, try again tomorrow! They'll let ya. :up:

I've experienced this many times personally.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah, not the smoothest line ever, but you played it off as being playful, which is what's important. Don't let little things like this get to you.
 
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Hi
You are not clear with your thoughts, will you give more information. So I can help you out in this matter.


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I never claimed to be smooth. I'll be the first to admit my game sucks. That's why I'm here, so feel free to "learn" me.
Because I'm good-looking I meet alot of attractive girls whose initial interest level is high. I have no trouble getting phone numbers and first dates. But after that I'm in trouble. When it comes to getting physical I become tense and just can't find the moves. Specific advice in this area would be most welcome. Telling me to "relax" doesn't count.
My problem growing up was I relied on my appearance and didn't develop my personality and confidence enough. Back in high school it was so easy...all I had to do was smile and the girls took it from there. College babes however are a different story. And apparently I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm ready to listen though.
 
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Nice thread! I really like your provided information. It's really helpful for me.
Thanks a lot!
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This same principle has worked for me on a broader scale many, many times. As recently as today I got a call from a Filipino chick I used to pursue. After the first few times we hung out she was always "too busy", and eventually ignored all my calls and texts. So I said @#$% it and left her alone for a few weeks, now here she is asking me to go swimming tomorrow. She's like 4 11 with chocolate skin and amazing lips and tits, so bring on the bikini! My point is, if you're getting nowhere, let it go and she might come back to you. I heard somewhere that when a girl doesn't hear from you for 2 weeks, she starts to wonder what's up and often initiates contact.
 
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