Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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What to say when you get explicitly friendzoned?

MaddXMan

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I say "I'm looking to date, not make friends. I have enough of those. You're not feeling it, it's cool, I understand. Good luck to you."

Her: thanks for being so understanding etc.

Me: lol really, it's fine. We didn't even know each other yet anyway. (Or, we only knew each other superficially)

The last comment throws them for a loop. It tells her you haven't invested anything.

And it's true. If its only been a few dates, you can easily write her off. You may have wanted to bang her, but you really didn't know her, or her you.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MatureDJ

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Actually, about the gal I had mentioned earlier, we used to hang out sometimes "as friends" (which really was her taking her time deciding if she wanted me), and I would tell her about women I was with. All that got her to hasten her decision as she felt she might miss out.

Now with that said, if when you are hanging around, *she* is the one trying to get picked up by other men, then don't accede to it.
 

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AFAIC, getting friendzoned is a rejection.

Also, when a woman gets pissed that you won'd accept the friendzone, ignore it. She's just that way because you refuse to be a beta orbiter or an emotional tampon. But you weren't gonna get any anyway, so you're still rejected. Therefore, don't give any more time or attention to her. So ordered.

BTW, Delete the number in front of her.

Case closed.
 

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I respectfully disagree with some of you folks. Female communication tends to be covert. So attempting to overtly reason with her isn't going to help your cause. The OP was already out on a date with this girl. She stated that she "only wanted to be friends" and yet came out on the date anyway.

The best course of action would have been to just say "OK" and then continue to escalate. If the girl really isn't feeling him in a romantic/sexual way, she would rebuff his advances and end the date. Otherwise, she would be receptive. Whichever scenario plays out, you don't have any doubts as to where you stand.
 

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Findog said:
"You're okay with us just being friends, right? I just have a lot going on right now, I gotta figure some stuff out...


Obviously I have no interest in being her beta orbiter and will pursue other plates and stop contacting her...

What should I have said? What do you say when a girl just straight out friendzones you like this?
Well, she was being up front and honest with you, why don't you simply return the favor? No need to be butt hurt.

It's completely possible that she's searching the interwebs for varying levels of male. If she meets her "alpha" she'll open up her legs.

Every other guy gets put in the "emergency use only" friend zone.

So, unless you were trying to "pretend" to be OK with being her friend so you could sneak into her pants (which you said you weren't) why not be completely honest?

"Well, I certainly understand where you're coming from. However, I was using that particular site find somebody for a potential romantic relationship. If you're not interested in that, which I totally understand, then I guess that's that."

And then politely excuse yourself.

After all, you're looking to get laid, and she's not (at least with you) why make it so dramatic?

Thanks but no thanks, honey.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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