"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheBaconator

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Long story short I hooked up with some girl at club last weekend, called sunday asked if she wanted to do something wed night (tonight) and when she agreed told her i'd call her last night to discuss wat to do.

Now I call last night about 915 and she answers and talks for a min but asks to call me back because she's meeting her mom. So I say no prob and she never calls me back and hasn't today. Now I know many of you will say she has low IL so just next it, but I think it's worth at least calling one more time. I think there is decent IL since I left her a message Sunday and she returned my call and remembered me from the club and sounded happy on fone.

So what should I say today? Do I even bring up her not callin me bak and just act like we still have plans to chill tonite? Should I text her sayin wasup?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Huge mistake not already telling her what the plans are the first time you called. You had a chance to set the date up and failed.

Then you left the ball in her court to call back, never do that. They never call.

You can call again why not, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work out.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Huge mistake not already telling her what the plans are the first time you called. You had a chance to set the date up then and failed.

Then you left the ball in her court to call back, never do that. They never call.
No I told her I would call her back last night to decide wha to do which I did. The problem is she asked to call me back after that and didn't. You're right I should have set it up when first talking, but reflecting on that will get me nowhere, i've learned for next time. Now what should I say when I call her and try to get her out tonite?
 
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TheBaconator said:
No I told her I would call her back last night to decide wha to do which I did. The problem is she asked to call me back after that and didn't. You're right I should have set it up when first talking, but reflecting on that will get me nowhere, i've learned for next time. Now what should I say when I call her and try to get her out tonite?

I wouldn't even mention it. Just do what you should have done the first time and see if she agrees to meet again.
 

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TheBaconator said:
Long story short I hooked up with some girl at club last weekend, called sunday asked if she wanted to do something wed night (tonight) and when she agreed told her i'd call her last night to discuss wat to do.

Now I call last night about 915 and she answers and talks for a min but asks to call me back because she's meeting her mom. So I say no prob and she never calls me back and hasn't today. Now I know many of you will say she has low IL so just next it, but I think it's worth at least calling one more time. I think there is decent IL since I left her a message Sunday and she returned my call and remembered me from the club and sounded happy on fone.

So what should I say today? Do I even bring up her not callin me bak and just act like we still have plans to chill tonite? Should I text her sayin wasup?
You clearly haven't read the Don Juan Bible. Read it.

Sosuave is not here to hold your hand in the journey that will be your love life. When you're unsure, you cannot run to Sosuave and get the perfect line that will make her spread her legs for you. If you actually understand the materials here, then you'll know what to do.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wouldn't call her back yet. Go out and do something else tonight, wait a day or two then if she hasn't called you can call her if you still want to.
 
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