"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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what should I do?

seth03

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So theres this girl i've been trying to get on for the past few weeks. I have only met up with her at our work's happy hours, which are on thursdays, but I never see her at all throughout the week. First time I met her, got her number, whatever. I call her to hang out on the weekend, she was busy when I called, so I forgot about it. Today was the 3rd time I saw her at our happy hour. She acted all standoffish the whole time, but whenever I laid kino on her, ANY type of kino on her, she welcomed it. I can keep my hand on the small of her back for like 5 seconds, and she has no problem.

However, she acts like she is a lot cooler than she is (or it might be that she is so shy that she doesn't know how to act). She mentions that she will have a party at her place once her roomates are done with it, and I ask if i can come, and she says "no". There are other parts of our convos where she acts standoffish and fairly rude. YET, she accepts my kino all the time. AND, when I saw a guy trying to hit on her and touch her, she got all squirmy with him.

ALSO...she never calls me, but whenever I call, she answers right away, or calls me back immediately if she doesn't have her phone on her. She has never initiated ONE call. I have no problem with this, but that, combined with the fact that she acts rude to a lot of what I say, is making me confused.

Do her actions (kino acceptance and fact that she quickly and happily answers all my calls) speak louder than her words, or is this b!tch just a phuckin retard? help!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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maranathaman

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I'll admit that I'm a little rusty.
But my opinion is this...
ask her out on a date.
If she says "no", or makes excuses,
then you have your answer.
 

Rollo Tomassi

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I need more info. How old is she, how old are you? HB7? HB8? Where do you work?

From the initial read, I want to say she's an attention hoare, but I need more meat on the grill to give you a good BBQ.
 
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