"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What scares you.

What are you more scared of ?

  • Being rejected and feeling akward.

    Votes: 15 57.7%
  • Making the girl feel uncomfortable and akward?

    Votes: 11 42.3%

  • Total voters
    26

Walden

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Gentlemen.
We've all choked once or twice in the past. You know what I'm talking about : You've seen a girl , wanted to cols approach , gone up to her and choked , mind goes blank you can't hink of what to say and you pull out thinking "D@mn! why couldn't I do that?".

I'm curious. In your experience , when this happens to you, do you think it is because you're scared of being rejected (and feeling akward) or of putting the girl in a situation where she feels akward and uncomfortable?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ebach

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Well if we didn't care about the girl's comfority or whatever we would go ahead and do the move. But since we care, and in order to make a move we have to play "nice" we are afraid of rejections because usually that's what happens when you play your moves "nicely."
 

Duke

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The times when I pulled out, I always felt defeated before I even tried, and that was my problem. I used to assume defeat, and that's usually what I got. The reasons? Well I don't think they are super-important, but it was probably the fear of failure and an unwillingness to escape my comfort zone.

And yes, I used to think I'd make the girl uncomfortable. Because I'd be *gasp* revealing to her that I'm a sexual being!

Nowadays, I assume victory, and that's usually what I get.
 

Walden

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Hmmmm
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Microphone Fiend

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i dunno, it's a combination of the two. I don't care for the girl tho if she rejects me, but if she tries to gracefully, i don't wanna make her look bad
 

MrBond007

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Neither. Came to a point where I do not care anymore.
 
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