"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
What other forums were you members of?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I joined. But the admin has yet to activate my posting privileges (he has to approve accounts before they can post)
You have to give him a detailed description of your luck with the ladies (and then he makes a judgment call on whether you're worthy of posting). The fact I've had free sex makes me an outcast on the incel forum.
Hamurabimbi
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I would assume having had ‘free sex’ would make you a non-incel. And thus not an outcast, but rather not even allowed.
Also. Why would a non-incel want to join an incel site?
Imagine a site for men with one arm. Who. with two arms would join that site?
The definition of incel is fluid.
Some say if you've ever had free sex, even once, you don't qualify as an incel.
Yet some (including some posters on So Suave) say I'm an incel because of how sparingly I get free sex. I've had a 6 year dry spell from free sex before (and am currently on a 3 and half year dry spell)
As for why I'd want to join an incel forum: Because even if I've had free sex, I can relate to incels (because, again, how sparingly I get free sex)
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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What if that free sex was a long time ago?
Or was with a fat chick that you got when your beer goggles were at high strength?
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The existential fact is that the dating market is so dystopian that, relative to earlier times, a much, much larger portion of the male population can't get a date, or sustain a relationship, etc., with a decent chick (i.e., not fat, not a single mommy, not tatted, not vituperative, not crazy, etc.), and thus are de facto incels. The fact that there websites like SoSuave.net, and dating gurus, is proof of this dystopia.
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All women are crazy.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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This reminds me of how long this has been going on:
The iconic St. BlackOps2Cel picture featured a T-shirt from the game 4 version ago.
Even the types of broads you mentioned are increasingly hard to get sex/dates with.
And yeah, you're right when you say the market has become dystopian. For example, statistics have been posted on here showing that young guys today have less sex than young guys in the 80s, 90s, or even early 2000s.
I had a coworker at a past job who was 50-ish at the time. He was clearly an autist (to a much more noticeable degree than me), wore Coke bottle glasses, and had niche hobbies that would turn off the vast majority of the female population.
Nice guy, I got along with him, but that's my brutally honest description of him. I'd guess he's probably never had sex.
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Consider yourself blessed
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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That's the state of the world we live in, both on AND offline, hoss. The sort of jokes you could tell around the office as relatively recently as '14 will get you relieved of employment today
BPH
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Reddit.