Packers2010
Master Don Juan
Lucifero said:
gee i forgot thats all there is in life.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What is your success rate with women?
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gee i forgot thats all there is in life.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
DonGorgon
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Scars
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I run anti-dump, a long with a spice of my own game. So my ratio is pretty high.
Meaning, I only approach girls I know are already attracted, and I'm very intuitive about picking up on IOIs.
Eye contact. Trying to always be in close proximity. Laughs at everything I say. Shuts up whenever I speak. Will talk loudly in order to get my attention etc..
Don't ever cold approach too much anymore. To much BS, and when I do, the girl has usually already given me an IOI or I don't even bother. Creeper game's not my thing.
-Scars
Meaning, I only approach girls I know are already attracted, and I'm very intuitive about picking up on IOIs.
Eye contact. Trying to always be in close proximity. Laughs at everything I say. Shuts up whenever I speak. Will talk loudly in order to get my attention etc..
Don't ever cold approach too much anymore. To much BS, and when I do, the girl has usually already given me an IOI or I don't even bother. Creeper game's not my thing.
-Scars
The Mad Ghost
Senior Don Juan
He's pulling OP's leg. SJC 100%? Yeah Okay Man.nismo-4 said:
N-closes: 4/5
F-closes 1/5
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
TheAsianLoverReturns
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I **** 25-30% of the women I go out with.
The women I don't f*ck are women that want to string me out for dates because they see me as a potential provider.
I kick those b*tches to a curb. It's a poor investment of my time, energy, and money to go out with a b*tch for 1-3 months for the possibility of p*ssy.
The women I don't f*ck are women that want to string me out for dates because they see me as a potential provider.
I kick those b*tches to a curb. It's a poor investment of my time, energy, and money to go out with a b*tch for 1-3 months for the possibility of p*ssy.
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
anyone else willing to share?
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Nah, I'm pretty Awesome.Vice said:
Nice looking, muscular, confident, funny, intelligent, invincible, flexable, dont give a **** about rejection-flakes-rudeness, etc.
Even with all of that, my record is terrible. I dont give a ****, but I'm just telling the truth...I also approach a lot of women and I have more numbers than I can call (My avalible free-time is limited)...:woo:
The Mad Ghost
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okay man.Lucifero said:
Sir Psycho Sexy
Senior Don Juan
About 10% of the time for sex.
Some guys are saying they only go after girls they know are attracted to them. If a girl is attracted to me I can get sex 100% of the time, just like everyone else should be able to do lol...
Some guys are saying they only go after girls they know are attracted to them. If a girl is attracted to me I can get sex 100% of the time, just like everyone else should be able to do lol...
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Masculinity
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It's all about time management and selecting girls you see are interested in you. My success rate is about 80%
Vice
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Arrogance seems to be a factor. I just looked over a few of your other posts on this forum and I've found that most of your posts lack value.Lucifero said:
What may turn girls, and many people off is an over inflated ego. I have the same problem. I've been working to humble myself.
Most of the characteristics you described are all external as well.
If all of those external values are true, as soon as you get over yourself, you will transcend to a new level.
Now I'm making alot of judgements and assumptions here about someone I've never met, based off imperfect things called the words that you write.
One of my own issues is having a sort of "god complex", where I'm always judging people and looking down on them, always thinking that I'm superior to everyone, and always being the guy that subtly argues about everything to prove how smart I am. It's caused people to not want to be my friend, never invite me places, and just cause me to be lonely. I recently got in trouble with the police for underage drinking because I had too much pride to call someone to help me and drive me home, and instead got pinched sleeping in my car.
The #1 Trick for men is to determine how "easy" a woman is. Once you get to the point that you can pull chicks more or less reliably, you must hone your skills so you can ask the right questions and make the right observations to tell you whether the girl is going to put out quickly or if she's going to string you along.
This is priority #1 for guys who have relatively tight game. Learn to recognize easy chicks. For me, if they don't put out on the first 'date' (or whatever other get-together you've arranged), then they're done.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
I tend to throw too many fish back to get a limit. Smoking? pets? allergic to both and they won't be in my life.IF there is a bit of a slump going on-maybe I'd date them[but I usually toss them back. They always "assume" their feminine charms will change my mind] At 51, life is too short to waste time with a woman that won't work out.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
theanomaly
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I don't keep track of percentage rates but I have sex with about 3 or 4 new women a month. Not sure getting laid is a good way to measure success though. Lot's of the chics end up being more trouble than they're worth...drama wise that is.
MurdocIsGod
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About 99%? But I don't pursue girls clearly not interested... Until I sense interest from them.
I go after girls who I sense are attracted and I ALWAYS shoot for casual sex. If you include girls who aren't attracted to me obviously not 99%, but I don't go after those so I don't count it.
Basically my style is, talk to her and tease her, etc, if I sense something, go for it (it always works out because I have spidey senses about a girl's interest in me). If I sense nothing, then I don't bother or sometimes they randomly become interested years later which is weird. Oh but maybe my "spidey senses" are **** after all because sometimes girls who seem to not really know I exist will literally out of the blue say they'd **** me (happened 3 times before) and I'll be thinking: "WTF?! Really?!"
I go after girls who I sense are attracted and I ALWAYS shoot for casual sex. If you include girls who aren't attracted to me obviously not 99%, but I don't go after those so I don't count it.
Basically my style is, talk to her and tease her, etc, if I sense something, go for it (it always works out because I have spidey senses about a girl's interest in me). If I sense nothing, then I don't bother or sometimes they randomly become interested years later which is weird. Oh but maybe my "spidey senses" are **** after all because sometimes girls who seem to not really know I exist will literally out of the blue say they'd **** me (happened 3 times before) and I'll be thinking: "WTF?! Really?!"
BlackMack177
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this is kinda hard to say. I usually only pursue if I think a chick is into me, but my senses for that sort of thing seem to be mediocre at best. Sometimes I'll be teasing and having fun with a chick and i'll think she's interested only to get the cold shoulder after I try to take it further. This is usually from the hotter ones too which sucks....
so I guess i'd say if you just count the chicks who gave me the time of day, maybe about 70%
over all, including online messaging, i'd say less than 5% of the messages sent turned into anything (whether is be lays, dates, or just phone buddies)
I'm trying to work on my game. I like to think i'm pretty attractive (muscular, somewhat funny, and great personality (this is from other people), but i guess not so if I got such a low success rate. Maybe I should just work on reading signals of interest
so I guess i'd say if you just count the chicks who gave me the time of day, maybe about 70%
over all, including online messaging, i'd say less than 5% of the messages sent turned into anything (whether is be lays, dates, or just phone buddies)
I'm trying to work on my game. I like to think i'm pretty attractive (muscular, somewhat funny, and great personality (this is from other people), but i guess not so if I got such a low success rate. Maybe I should just work on reading signals of interest
Bible_Belt
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Exactly. Me too.MurdocIsGod said:
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.