Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Out of all the women I've ever approached, mines is terrible for some reason...how about yours?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
What is your success rate with women?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
loveshogun
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If this is for sex (vaginal or anal at least), mine's maybe around 10 percent. I approach 10, I get one. If it's for anything short of that, about double, so every 1 of 5.
Then again, I approach selectively compared to some other guys.
If I were to approach completely blind, my percentages would absolutely be lower, but my actual number of lays would be slightly higher. I'd also spend a LOT more time going out.
**EDIT**
Actually, my success rate with women is so far, 0%, because I haven't found one worth keeping.
Define success. I'm assuming it's the lay number.
Then again, I approach selectively compared to some other guys.
If I were to approach completely blind, my percentages would absolutely be lower, but my actual number of lays would be slightly higher. I'd also spend a LOT more time going out.
**EDIT**
Actually, my success rate with women is so far, 0%, because I haven't found one worth keeping.
Define success. I'm assuming it's the lay number.
Bryce556
Senior Don Juan
1 to every 10s not bad, i feel like mines more like 1 for every 100 girls i meet
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Your assumption is correct.loveshogun said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
I used to approach blind but now I look for IOI's before making any moves...but I'm still in "Game Training"....loveshogun said:
The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
I'm probably 3 out of every 4 girls I go after... But, mind you I am pretty selective and only go for girls that i find interesting and who also show an interest in me. Once I know she's into it, it's easy. If a girl shows no interest I don't even entertain the idea of trying to get her. No point.
I don't chase after the girls that aren't really that interested. It's usually pretty easy to tell if they're into it or not.
Out of the girls that have some interest (to varying degrees of course. some are aboslutely smitten by you and others only take a slight interest) I'd say my success rate is about 75%.
If I took into account all the girls that I think are cute but never really show any IOI's even though I am into it, I'd say my success rate is considerably lower. Probably 3-5%.
Out of the girls that have some interest (to varying degrees of course. some are aboslutely smitten by you and others only take a slight interest) I'd say my success rate is about 75%.
If I took into account all the girls that I think are cute but never really show any IOI's even though I am into it, I'd say my success rate is considerably lower. Probably 3-5%.
thedude4242
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number wise I am about 30 out of 30 in the last few years. sex about a lot less. maybe 5% at best.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
escaleraroyal
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mine is 1/5. I'm not lying.
Mistic
Senior Don Juan
95%
I know immediately if there is anything there. There either is or there isn't. If there is, all I have to do is look at her and not say anything until I am ready. It's called quiet confidence and women respond way more to this than any opener. The other 5% turn out to be better as friends.
I know immediately if there is anything there. There either is or there isn't. If there is, all I have to do is look at her and not say anything until I am ready. It's called quiet confidence and women respond way more to this than any opener. The other 5% turn out to be better as friends.
nismo-4
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You must be a male model with a fat-ass bank account!San Jose California said:
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
I do not believe you. Unless you dont approach many women, the it is theoretically possible.San Jose California said:
I count getting blown off or blown out too. If you even failed to get ther number it counts.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Or a liar...but dont we all lie about things...:yawn:nismo-4 said:
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
well. i am a total AFC so i don't " approached" girls. but i did date a girl once. if that counts
DonGorgon
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I seldom approach and I am very selective also so for very 10 tries I get 1.5 lays... lol most women don't find me attractive so I have to wait a while till one actually is attracted that sucks cause I can't cold approach
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
lol, you scared *****.Packers2010 said:
Anyway, did you **** her? If not then you are 0-1 which equals 0%...
Solomon
Master Don Juan
lol @ Mistic mmmh sure
If were talking strictly approaches I would say 5 out of a 100
My number has dropped the last two years
blame it on the belly, and my lack of "game"
If were talking strictly approaches I would say 5 out of a 100
My number has dropped the last two years
blame it on the belly, and my lack of "game"
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.