Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Out of all the women I've ever approached, mines is terrible for some reason...how about yours?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What is your success rate with women?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
loveshogun
Master Don Juan
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If this is for sex (vaginal or anal at least), mine's maybe around 10 percent. I approach 10, I get one. If it's for anything short of that, about double, so every 1 of 5.
Then again, I approach selectively compared to some other guys.
If I were to approach completely blind, my percentages would absolutely be lower, but my actual number of lays would be slightly higher. I'd also spend a LOT more time going out.
**EDIT**
Actually, my success rate with women is so far, 0%, because I haven't found one worth keeping.
Define success. I'm assuming it's the lay number.
Then again, I approach selectively compared to some other guys.
If I were to approach completely blind, my percentages would absolutely be lower, but my actual number of lays would be slightly higher. I'd also spend a LOT more time going out.
**EDIT**
Actually, my success rate with women is so far, 0%, because I haven't found one worth keeping.
Define success. I'm assuming it's the lay number.
Bryce556
Senior Don Juan
1 to every 10s not bad, i feel like mines more like 1 for every 100 girls i meet
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Your assumption is correct.loveshogun said:
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
I used to approach blind but now I look for IOI's before making any moves...but I'm still in "Game Training"....loveshogun said:
The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
I'm probably 3 out of every 4 girls I go after... But, mind you I am pretty selective and only go for girls that i find interesting and who also show an interest in me. Once I know she's into it, it's easy. If a girl shows no interest I don't even entertain the idea of trying to get her. No point.
I don't chase after the girls that aren't really that interested. It's usually pretty easy to tell if they're into it or not.
Out of the girls that have some interest (to varying degrees of course. some are aboslutely smitten by you and others only take a slight interest) I'd say my success rate is about 75%.
If I took into account all the girls that I think are cute but never really show any IOI's even though I am into it, I'd say my success rate is considerably lower. Probably 3-5%.
Out of the girls that have some interest (to varying degrees of course. some are aboslutely smitten by you and others only take a slight interest) I'd say my success rate is about 75%.
If I took into account all the girls that I think are cute but never really show any IOI's even though I am into it, I'd say my success rate is considerably lower. Probably 3-5%.
thedude4242
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number wise I am about 30 out of 30 in the last few years. sex about a lot less. maybe 5% at best.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
escaleraroyal
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mine is 1/5. I'm not lying.
Mistic
Senior Don Juan
95%
I know immediately if there is anything there. There either is or there isn't. If there is, all I have to do is look at her and not say anything until I am ready. It's called quiet confidence and women respond way more to this than any opener. The other 5% turn out to be better as friends.
I know immediately if there is anything there. There either is or there isn't. If there is, all I have to do is look at her and not say anything until I am ready. It's called quiet confidence and women respond way more to this than any opener. The other 5% turn out to be better as friends.
nismo-4
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You must be a male model with a fat-ass bank account!San Jose California said:
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
I do not believe you. Unless you dont approach many women, the it is theoretically possible.San Jose California said:
I count getting blown off or blown out too. If you even failed to get ther number it counts.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
Or a liar...but dont we all lie about things...:yawn:nismo-4 said:
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
well. i am a total AFC so i don't " approached" girls. but i did date a girl once. if that counts
DonGorgon
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I seldom approach and I am very selective also so for very 10 tries I get 1.5 lays... lol most women don't find me attractive so I have to wait a while till one actually is attracted that sucks cause I can't cold approach
Lucifero
Senior Don Juan
lol, you scared *****.Packers2010 said:
Anyway, did you **** her? If not then you are 0-1 which equals 0%...
Solomon
Master Don Juan
lol @ Mistic mmmh sure
If were talking strictly approaches I would say 5 out of a 100
My number has dropped the last two years
blame it on the belly, and my lack of "game"
If were talking strictly approaches I would say 5 out of a 100
My number has dropped the last two years
blame it on the belly, and my lack of "game"
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.