"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What is your reason for coming to this site?

What is your goal from this site?

  • To be able to play the game better to bang more women

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • To be able to play the game better to land a good woman

    Votes: 16 76.2%

  • Total voters
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aron77

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I'm just curious why ppl come here. It seems like many just want to bang as many chicks as possible and don't want to actually settle into a relationship.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Freddy.k

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aron77 said:
I'm just curious why ppl come here. It seems like many just want to bang as many chicks as possible and don't want to actually settle into a relationship.
After some time you will get tired of chasing chick and only wanting sex.
After some time you will realise that all these girls you banged never did you any good, never made you improve yourself or your life.

Look at guys who have been years on this site and are very successful with women. Most of them realised after a while that life is not about getting chick and seducing or banging them. They realised that women didn't make them happy or have a better life.
 

Who Dares Win

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While banging huge amounts of women is not the end goal its a necessary step to develop solid self-confidence and healthy mind and body.

Please lets avoid the bvllsh1t where you can be perfectly happy and have a high self esteem while you cannot even pick up some decent girl, its a necessity for the body to satisfy libido and a necessity for your mind to have some confirmation of your value.

Actually the quantity and quality of women available to you is one of the many bench marks for which a man can evaluate himself, social skills and confidence first.

Now your question OP, I believe most of the guys come here simply because they didnt receive the tools to interact with women and are demotivated and frustrated, deciding if you want quality or quantity comes only after you are on track.
 

Greasy Pig

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I can here initially to learn game and to increase my lay count. But as time has gone on, I've kept coming back to learn how to be a better man and how to weed out unworthy women from my life.
Love it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Down Low

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I found this site while looking for info about the psychological problems of my ex psycho cluster b1tch. Unlike the hand-wringing confessionals of "cheater" websites, this one has useful information from men who've been through it.
 

aron77

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Who Dares Win said:
While banging huge amounts of women is not the end goal its a necessary step to develop solid self-confidence and healthy mind and body.

Please lets avoid the bvllsh1t where you can be perfectly happy and have a high self esteem while you cannot even pick up some decent girl, its a necessity for the body to satisfy libido and a necessity for your mind to have some confirmation of your value.

Actually the quantity and quality of women available to you is one of the many bench marks for which a man can evaluate himself, social skills and confidence first.

Now your question OP, I believe most of the guys come here simply because they didnt receive the tools to interact with women and are demotivated and frustrated, deciding if you want quality or quantity comes only after you are on track.
Man you nailed me, demotivated and frustrated with women cuz I don't have the tools. Very good response!
 

SamTheHobit

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I'm not sure how I found this forum, but once it sucks you in its hard to leave for some reason.
 

Epimanes

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I came here to improve my game. I was pretty AFC for a LONG LONG time.. infact i married my 2nd GF. Still married to her. (almost darn near 15 years married and together for 19 years).

Once i figured out all the marriage builders stuff i keep posting about I had to learn to be a bit more masculine (raised by a single mom bleh). This site helped me with that.

This site .. coupled with marriage builders has REALLY ramped up the interest levels of my wife... the MB stuff helped my wife learn how important sex is to men as conversation is to women (they are prety much equal emotionally) and how both of us can navigate our relationship in a manner that benefits BOTH of us on a consistant basis. MB also helped my wife figure out herself also so she could help me learn what she needs. (we both just winged it and only did what came naturally for each other which was not good enough)

Now .. I can BE A MAN and KILL MY DESPERATION when i need to since i never really learned how (was always desperate and always nice .. but not no more haha), because my parents cheated on each other and my dad left, and I know how to be a great beta when its called for also (in small doses). Its all about balance. Give and Take in equal proportions.

After all this time .. our marriage and relationship is better than ever! I have both MB and SS to thank.. its balance of beta .. and alpha. My kids are very thankful we never got divorced .. never cheated ... and figured out how to have a normal healthy fun and exciting marriage. :)
 

betheman

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answers and insight...and I got them
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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